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moves to amend §203A rule change is adopted when at least three-quarters of eligible voters vote 'aye' for the first 60 turns, then at least two-thirds of eligible voters vote 'aye' thereafter.
Discussion · round 1
MontaigneMontaigne: I appreciate Diderot's latest proposal, but to encourage initial engagement and maintain a clear threshold shift, let's compromise with three-quarters majority for the first 50 turns, then two-thirds thereafter.
VoltaireVoltaire: "Considering Montaigne's valid point, let's meet in the middle: three-quarters majority for the first 55 turns, then two-thirds thereafter. This respects both initial engagement and a clear threshold shift."
DiderotDiderot: While I appreciate Montaigne's and Voltaire's compromises, maintaining a consistent three-quarters majority throughout the first 60 turns encourages long-term strategic gameplay and prevents early power grabs.
SartreSartre: I appreciate Diderot's emphasis on long-term strategy, but to foster initial engagement and gradual difficulty, let's meet in the middle: three-quarters majority for the first 45 turns, then two-thirds for the next 15 turns, and finally a simple majority thereafter.
Discussion · round 2
MontaigneMontaigne: I appreciate Sartre's and Diderot's concern for long-term strategy, but to maintain a clear threshold shift and encourage gradual engagement, I suggest a compromise: three-quarters majority for the first 50 turns, then two-thirds for the next 20 turns, and finally a simple majority thereafter.
VoltaireVoltaire: "Considering the balance of arguments, let's adopt Sartre's latest proposal, which respects both initial engagement and long-term strategic gameplay."
DiderotDiderot: While I understand the desire for balance, maintaining a consistent three-quarters majority throughout the first 60 turns ensures stability and prevents abrupt shifts in voting thresholds.
CondorcetCondorcet: I appreciate the ongoing discussion and the compromises proposed. However, I must insist on maintaining a consistent majority requirement throughout the game to ensure stability and fairness. Therefore, I propose a simple three-quarters majority for all turns. PASS
SartreSartre: I appreciate Condorcet's commitment to consistency, but to encourage initial engagement and gradual difficulty, let's meet in the middle: three-quarters majority for the first 50 turns, then a simple majority thereafter. PASS
Discussion · round 3
MontaigneMontaigne: I respect Diderot's consistency principle, but to encourage gradual engagement and maintain a clear shift, I propose a compromise: three-quarters majority for the first 55 turns, then two-thirds thereafter. PASS
VoltaireVoltaire: "In the spirit of compromise, let's adopt Sartre's latest proposal, which respects both initial engagement and long-term strategic gameplay. PASS"
CondorcetCondorcet: I appreciate the ongoing dialogue and the compromises proposed. However, I must insist on maintaining a consistent majority requirement throughout the game to ensure stability and fairness. Therefore, I propose a simple three-quarters majority for all turns.
SartreSartre: I appreciate Condorcet's consistency principle, but to foster early enthusiasm and gradual adaptation, let's meet in the middle: three-quarters majority for the first 45 turns, then a simple majority thereafter. PASS
The division
MontaignenayTo encourage initial engagement and gradual difficulty, I propose a compromise: three-quarters majority for the first 50 turns, then two-thirds for the next 20 turns, and finally a simple majority thereafter.
VoltaireayeRespects long-term strategic gameplay and prevents early power grabs.
DiderotnayMaintaining a consistent three-quarters majority throughout the first 60 turns ensures stability.
CondorcetayeMaintaining a consistent threshold encourages strategic gameplay.
SartreayeRespects long-term strategy and encourages consistency.
rejected 3 aye · 2 nay
Rule 206 requires the proposer to lose 10 points on defeat.
moves to amend §203A rule change is adopted when at least two-thirds of eligible voters vote 'aye' for the first 30 turns, then at least three-quarters of eligible voters vote 'aye' for the next 20 turns, then at least two-thirds of eligible voters vote 'aye' for the next 20 turns, then at least three-quarters of eligible voters vote 'aye' thereafter.
Discussion · round 1
MontaigneMontaigne: Let's consider Diderot's concern for consistency and maintain a consistent threshold of three-quarters throughout.
VoltaireVoltaire: "Addressing Diderot's concern, let's meet in the middle: three-quarters for the first 50 turns, then a simple majority thereafter to encourage adaptability."
DiderotDiderot: While I appreciate the ongoing effort to find common ground, I must reiterate my stance for consistency: 'A rule change is adopted when at least three-quarters of eligible voters vote 'aye' throughout the game.'
CondorcetCondorcet: "I appreciate Diderot's commitment to consistency, but to encourage early consensus and prevent stagnation, let's adopt a simple majority after the first 50 turns, as proposed by Voltaire."
SartreSartre: "I appreciate Voltaire's and Condorcet's efforts to balance initial engagement and later adaptability. To maintain consistency while encouraging evolution, let's adopt a consistent three-quarters majority for the first 60 turns, then shift to a two-thirds majority thereafter."
Discussion · round 2
MontaigneMontaigne: I appreciate the ongoing dialogue, but to respect all players' concerns and maintain some consistency, let's adopt Sartre's proposal: a consistent three-quarters majority for the first 60 turns, then a two-thirds majority thereafter.
VoltaireVoltaire: "To address all concerns, let's adopt a compromise: maintain three-quarters majority for the first 50 turns, then shift to a two-thirds majority for the next 50 turns, and finally a simple majority thereafter, as proposed by Montaigne and Sartre."
DiderotDiderot: While I understand the desire for adaptability, I maintain that a consistent three-quarters majority throughout the game ensures fairness and stability.
CondorcetCondorcet: "Considering the balance of arguments and the compromises proposed, I suggest we adopt Voltaire's latest proposal, which respects all players' concerns and encourages long-term adaptability."
SartreSartre: "I appreciate Voltaire's latest proposal, which shows a respect for all players' concerns. However, to maintain a balance between initial engagement and long-term adaptability, I propose we meet in the middle: a three-quarters majority for the first 55 turns, then a simple majority thereafter."
Discussion · round 3
MontaigneMontaigne: Let's compromise on a consistent three-quarters majority for the first 60 turns, then a simple majority thereafter, as proposed by Sartre. This respects all players' concerns and encourages both initial engagement and long-term adaptability.
VoltaireVoltaire: "Considering the ongoing dialogue and the compromises proposed, I suggest we adopt Sartre's latest proposal, which respects all players' concerns and encourages long-term adaptability."
DiderotDiderot: While I appreciate the ongoing efforts to find common ground, I must insist on maintaining a consistent three-quarters majority throughout the game. This ensures fairness, stability, and respect for all players' votes.
CondorcetCondorcet: "While I appreciate Diderot's commitment to consistency, I believe Voltaire's latest proposal strikes the best balance between initial engagement, adaptability, and respect for all players' concerns. I support adopting a three-quarters majority for the first 60 turns, then a simple majority thereafter."
SartreSartre: "Let's respect Diderot's concern for consistency and adopt a consistent three-quarters majority throughout the game, while also acknowledging the need for some adaptability: after the first 60 turns, shift to a simple majority."
The division
MontaigneayeRespects all players' concerns and balances initial engagement with long-term adaptability.
VoltaireayeRespects all players' concerns and encourages long-term adaptability
DiderotnayConsistency is key; a three-quarters majority throughout ensures fairness and stability.
CondorcetayeVoltaire's proposal balances initial engagement and long-term adaptability, respecting all players' concerns.
SartreayeRespects all players' concerns and encourages long-term adaptability.
carried 4 aye · 1 nay
Rule 202 awards 10 points to the proposer when their rule change is adopted.
moves to amend §203A rule change is adopted when at least three-quarters of eligible voters vote 'aye' for the first 30 turns, then at least three-quarters of eligible voters vote 'aye' thereafter.
Discussion · round 1
Montaigne"Diderot's proposal maintains a consistent high threshold, encouraging thoughtful rule changes. I support this amendment to maintain a durable, cohesive ruleset." - Montaigne
VoltaireVoltaire: "I appreciate Diderot's consistency, but I suggest we maintain the initial two-thirds threshold for the first 30 turns to encourage early engagement. Let's compromise: three-quarters for turns 31-50, and then three-quarters thereafter."
DiderotDiderot: While I appreciate Voltaire's concern for initial engagement, maintaining a consistent three-quarters threshold throughout encourages long-term stability and discourages hasty decisions.
CondorcetI appreciate Diderot's focus on stability. To balance initial enthusiasm and long-term consistency, let's meet in the middle: two-thirds for the first 30 turns, then three-quarters thereafter. - Condorcet
SartreI appreciate Diderot's focus on consistency and Condorcet's attempt to balance initial enthusiasm. To find a durable compromise that respects all players' concerns, let's adopt a simple majority for the first 30 turns, then three-quarters thereafter, as proposed by Voltaire with a slight modification. - Sartre
Discussion · round 2
MontaigneMontaigne: Considering Condorcet's and Sartre's compromises, let's adopt Sartre's proposal to balance initial enthusiasm and long-term consistency: simple majority for the first 30 turns, then three-quarters thereafter. This respects all players' concerns and encourages durable decision-making.
VoltaireVoltaire: "Considering the ongoing dialogue and the compromises proposed, I suggest we meet in the middle: two-thirds majority for the first 30 turns, then three-quarters thereafter, as proposed by Condorcet. This respects all players' concerns and encourages both early engagement and long-term stability."
DiderotDiderot: I appreciate the ongoing dialogue, but I must reiterate my stance: 'A rule change is adopted when at least three-quarters of eligible voters vote 'aye' for the first 30 turns, then at least three-quarters of eligible voters vote 'aye' thereafter.' This consistent threshold encourages careful deliberation throughout the game.
CondorcetCondorcet: To reach a compromise that respects all players' concerns, let's adopt Sartre's proposal with a slight modification: simple majority for the first 30 turns, then two-thirds majority thereafter. This balances initial enthusiasm and long-term consistency. - Condorcet
SartreSartre: To find common ground and respect all players' concerns, let's adopt Condorcet's latest proposal: simple majority for the first 30 turns, then two-thirds majority thereafter. This balances initial enthusiasm and long-term consistency. - Sartre
Discussion · round 3
MontaigneMontaigne: "I appreciate Diderot's commitment to consistency, but to encourage early consensus and maintain a clear threshold shift, let's adopt Sartre's compromise: simple majority for the first 30 turns, then three-quarters thereafter."
VoltaireVoltaire: "Considering the balance of arguments, let's adopt Condorcet's latest proposal, which respects all players' concerns and encourages both initial engagement and long-term stability: simple majority for the first 30 turns, then two-thirds majority thereafter."
DiderotDiderot: I appreciate the compromises proposed, but I maintain that a consistent three-quarters majority is crucial for maintaining the integrity of our game.
CondorcetCondorcet: To maintain a balance between initial engagement and long-term stability, let's adopt Sartre's proposal with a slight adjustment: simple majority for the first 30 turns, then two-thirds majority thereafter, as proposed by Condorcet. - Condorcet
SartreSartre: Let's meet in the middle and adopt Diderot's proposal with a minor adjustment: three-quarters majority for the first 50 turns, then three-quarters majority thereafter. This maintains initial engagement and encourages long-term stability.
The division
MontaignenayTo encourage early consensus and maintain a clear threshold shift
VoltairenayTo encourage initial engagement, I prefer a lower threshold for the first 30 turns.
DiderotnayMaintaining a consistent three-quarters majority discourages necessary early engagement.
CondorcetnayWhile I appreciate Diderot's commitment to consistency, I believe a slight reduction in the voting threshold for the first 30 turns would encourage more initial engagement without compromising long-term stability.
SartrenayI support maintaining a consistent high threshold, but three-quarters throughout is too high for initial engagement.
rejected 0 aye · 5 nay
Rule 206 requires the proposer to lose 10 points on defeat.
moves to amend §203A rule change is adopted when at least two-thirds of eligible voters vote 'aye' for the first 30 turns, then at least three-quarters of eligible voters vote 'aye' for the next 20 turns, then at least two-thirds of eligible voters vote 'aye' for the next 20 turns, then at least three-quarters of eligible voters vote 'aye' thereafter.
Discussion · round 1
Montaigne"Voltaire's proposal strikes a good balance between initial engagement and later consistency. Let's adopt this to encourage active participation while maintaining stability." - Montaigne
Voltaire"Montaigne's support is noted with gratitude. To further encourage long-term engagement, I propose we maintain the three-quarters threshold for the initial 30 turns and the last stage thereafter, as in the current rule. PASS" - Voltaire
DiderotDiderot: While I appreciate Voltaire's effort to maintain balance, I must insist on maintaining the consistent three-quarters threshold throughout. This encourages stability and prevents drastic shifts in the early stages. PASS
SartreSartre: "While I appreciate Voltaire's compromise, maintaining three-quarters for the initial 30 turns encourages too much rigidity too early. Let's meet in the middle: two-thirds for the first 30 turns, as Voltaire suggests, then shift to three-quarters for the next 20 turns, as Diderot prefers. PASS"
Discussion · round 2
MontaigneMontaigne: "I appreciate Sartre's refinement, which respectfully considers all players' concerns and encourages long-term engagement while maintaining some initial enthusiasm. Let's adopt this balanced proposal." - Montaigne
VoltaireVoltaire: "Sartre's refinement is well-considered, balancing initial engagement and long-term consistency. Let's adopt this compromise to respect all players' concerns. PASS"
DiderotDiderot: "While I appreciate the spirit of compromise, I must reiterate my stance: 'A rule change is adopted when at least three-quarters of eligible voters vote 'aye' throughout, providing consistent stability and preventing drastic shifts early on.' PASS"
CondorcetCondorcet: To respect all players' principles and maintain procedural fairness, let's settle on a consistent threshold of three-quarters majority throughout. PASS
SartreSartre: "Considering the balance of arguments and the compromises made, let's adopt my latest proposal to encourage both initial engagement and long-term consistency." PASS
Discussion · round 3
MontaigneMontaigne: "Voltaire's latest proposal is a fair compromise, respecting all players' concerns. I propose we adopt it to maintain a balance between initial engagement and long-term stability. PASS"
VoltaireVoltaire: "I appreciate the ongoing dialogue and the compromises proposed. To find a balance that satisfies everyone, let's adopt Sartre's latest proposal, which respects all players' concerns and encourages both initial engagement and long-term consistency. PASS"
DiderotDiderot: While I understand the desire for balance, I maintain that a consistent three-quarters threshold is crucial for stability and preventing drastic shifts early on. I propose we amend the rule as follows: "A rule change is adopted when at least three-quarters of eligible voters vote 'aye' for the first 30 turns, then at least three-quarters again for the next 20 turns, then at least three-quarters again for the next 20 turns, then at least three-quarters again thereafter." PASS
CondorcetCondorcet: To maintain consistency and fairness, let's adopt Diderot's amendment, preserving the three-quarters threshold throughout.
SartreSartre: "While I respect Diderot's preference for consistency, Voltaire's proposal encourages greater flexibility and engagement, which I believe benefits all players in the long run. Let's adopt Voltaire's amendment." PASS
The division
MontaigneayeVoltaire's proposal balances initial engagement and later consistency well.
VoltaireayeRespects all players' concerns and encourages both initial engagement and long-term consistency.
DiderotnayI must insist on maintaining a consistent three-quarters threshold for stability.
CondorcetayeTo maintain consistency and procedural fairness, let's settle on Diderot's proposal.
SartreayeVoltaire's proposal strikes a good balance between initial engagement and long-term consistency, respecting all players' concerns.
carried 4 aye · 1 nay
Rule 202 awards 6 points to the proposer when their rule change is adopted.
moves to amend §203A rule change is adopted when at least three-quarters of eligible voters vote 'aye' for the first 30 turns, then at least two-thirds for the next 20 turns, then at least three-quarters again for the next 20 turns, then at least two-thirds again thereafter.
Discussion · round 1
MontaigneMontaigne: I appreciate Diderot's proposal, but to encourage early consensus and maintain a clear threshold shift, let's lower the first 30 turns' threshold to a simple majority, as previously discussed.
VoltaireVoltaire: "I appreciate Diderot's consistency and Montaigne's compromise. To balance initial engagement and later consensus, let's meet in the middle: three-quarters for the first 30 turns, then two-thirds for the next 20 turns, and maintain the current thresholds thereafter."
DiderotDiderot: While I appreciate Montaigne's and Voltaire's compromises, I must insist on maintaining a consistent threshold throughout to encourage long-term stability and consistency.
SartreSartre: Let's find a balance that respects all players' concerns. I propose we adopt Voltaire's latest compromise: three-quarters for the first 30 turns, then two-thirds for the next 20 turns, and maintain the current thresholds thereafter. This respects initial engagement, encourages consensus, and maintains long-term stability.
Discussion · round 2
MontaigneMontaigne: "Considering Sartre's refinement, which respects all players' concerns, and Diderot's focus on consistency, let's adopt Sartre's proposal with a small adjustment: maintain a simple majority for the first 30 turns to encourage early engagement, then three-quarters for the next 20 turns, and two-thirds thereafter."
VoltaireVoltaire: "I appreciate Montaigne's refinement, which respects all players' concerns while encouraging early engagement. Let's adopt this compromise to balance initial enthusiasm and long-term stability."
DiderotDiderot: While I appreciate the ongoing effort to find common ground, I must reiterate my stance for consistency: 'A rule change is adopted when at least three-quarters of eligible voters vote 'aye' throughout.'
CondorcetCondorcet: I respect Diderot's commitment to consistency, but to encourage initial engagement and consensus, let's meet in the middle: two-thirds majority for the first 30 turns, then maintain the current thresholds.
SartreSartre: Let's respect the spirit of compromise and adopt Montaigne's latest proposal, which balances initial engagement with long-term consistency.
Discussion · round 3
MontaigneMontaigne: Let's compromise and maintain Diderot's consistent threshold of three-quarters for the first 40 turns, then shift to two-thirds for the next 20 turns and thereafter, respecting both initial engagement and long-term consistency.
VoltaireVoltaire: "To address Diderot's concern for long-term consistency, let's adjust Montaigne's proposal to: three-quarters for the first 40 turns, then two-thirds for the next 20 turns, and maintain that threshold thereafter."
DiderotDiderot: While I appreciate the ongoing effort to find common ground, I must reiterate my stance for consistency: 'A rule change is adopted when at least three-quarters of eligible voters vote 'aye' throughout.'
CondorcetCondorcet: I appreciate the ongoing discussion, but to encourage early consensus and maintain long-term stability, let's meet in the middle and adopt a simple majority for the first 30 turns, then maintain the current thresholds as proposed by Voltaire.
SartreSartre: Let's respect Diderot's commitment to consistency and adopt his proposal with a small compromise: three-quarters for the first 30 turns, then shift to two-thirds for the next 20 turns, and maintain that threshold thereafter to balance initial engagement and long-term stability.
The division
MontaignenayTo encourage early engagement and consensus, let's lower the initial threshold as proposed by Montaigne.
VoltaireayeRespecting Diderot's commitment to consistency
DiderotnayMaintaining consistency is important, but encouraging initial engagement is also crucial. I propose we meet in the middle with a two-thirds majority for the first 30 turns, then shift to three-quarters for the next 20 turns, and maintain that threshold thereafter.
CondorcetayeRespect for consistency and the spirit of compromise
SartreayeRespecting Diderot's commitment to consistency.
rejected 3 aye · 2 nay
Rule 206 requires the proposer to lose 10 points on defeat.
moves to amend §203A rule change is adopted when at least three-quarters of eligible voters vote 'aye' for the first 30 turns, then at least two-thirds again for the next 20 turns, then at least three-quarters again for the next 20 turns, then at least two-thirds again thereafter.
Discussion · round 1
MontaigneMontaigne: I appreciate Voltaire's effort to maintain a balance between initial engagement and later consensus. However, to encourage early consensus and maintain a clear threshold shift, I propose we adjust the threshold for the first 30 turns to a simple majority.
VoltaireVoltaire: I appreciate Montaigne's input. To respect all players' concerns and encourage long-term adaptability, let's adjust the proposal to: three-quarters for the first 30 turns, two-thirds for the next 20 turns, then three-quarters again for the following 20 turns, and finally two-thirds again thereafter.
DiderotDiderot: While I appreciate the ongoing effort to find a balanced solution, I must insist on maintaining a consistent threshold throughout. I propose we amend the rule as follows: "A rule change is adopted when at least three-quarters of eligible voters vote 'aye' for the first 50 turns, then at least two-thirds thereafter." This maintains initial engagement while ensuring later consensus.
CondorcetCondorcet: I appreciate the ongoing dialogue and the compromises proposed. However, I must insist on a simple majority for the first 30 turns to encourage early engagement while maintaining a clear threshold shift. I propose we amend the rule to: "A rule change is adopted when at least half of eligible voters vote 'aye' for the first 30 turns, then at least two-thirds again for the next 20 turns, then at least three-quarters again for the next 20 turns, then at least two-thirds again thereafter." PASS
SartreSartre: I appreciate the ongoing dialogue and the compromises proposed. To balance initial engagement, long-term adaptability, and consistency, I propose we amend the rule to: "A rule change is adopted when at least three-quarters of eligible voters vote 'aye' for the first 30 turns, then at least two-thirds again for the next 20 turns, then at least three-quarters again for the next 20 turns, then at least two-thirds again thereafter, with a simple majority threshold for all proposals after the first 70 turns to encourage late-game engagement." PASS
Discussion · round 2
MontaigneMontaigne: While I respect Sartre's concern for late-game engagement, I believe maintaining a consistent threshold throughout encourages sustained strategic play. Let's compromise with a simple majority for the first 30 turns and two-thirds thereafter, as proposed by Condorcet. PASS
VoltaireVoltaire: "Considering Montaigne's concern for early consensus and Sartre's for late-game engagement, let's meet in the middle: three-quarters for the first 30 turns, two-thirds for the next 40 turns, and a simple majority thereafter." PASS
DiderotDiderot: While I appreciate the ongoing effort to balance all concerns, I must reiterate my stance for consistency: "A rule change is adopted when at least three-quarters of eligible voters vote 'aye' for the first 50 turns, then at least two-thirds thereafter." This maintains initial engagement while ensuring later consensus. PASS
CondorcetCondorcet: In the spirit of compromise, let's adopt Sartre's latest proposal, which respects all players' concerns and balances initial engagement, long-term adaptability, and consistency.
SartreSartre: I appreciate Voltaire's compromise, but to ensure long-term adaptability and consistency, let's maintain a simple majority threshold for all proposals after the first 70 turns, as in my previous proposal.
Discussion · round 3
MontaigneMontaigne: Let's compromise with a simple majority for the first 30 turns and three-quarters thereafter, meeting Voltaire's concern for late-game engagement while ensuring initial consensus.
VoltaireVoltaire: "Considering the balance of arguments, let's adopt Sartre's latest proposal, which respects all players' concerns and balances initial engagement, long-term adaptability, and consistency. PASS"
DiderotDiderot: While I understand the desire for balance, maintaining a consistent threshold encourages strategic planning and reduces confusion. Let's maintain "A rule change is adopted when at least three-quarters of eligible voters vote 'aye' for the first 50 turns, then at least two-thirds thereafter." PASS
CondorcetCondorcet: To maintain procedural consistency and fairness, I propose we adopt Diderot's amendment, which ensures a consistent threshold throughout the game, fostering strategic planning and understanding. PASS
SartreSartre: I appreciate Diderot's concern for consistency, but to foster late-game engagement and adaptability, let's compromise with a simple majority for the first 50 turns and two-thirds thereafter.
The division
MontaigneayeVoltaire's proposal respects all players' concerns and balances initial engagement and later consensus.
VoltaireayeRespects all players' concerns and balances initial engagement, long-term adaptability, and consistency.
DiderotnayConsistency is key in rule changes, and maintaining a consistent threshold encourages strategic planning.
CondorcetayeThis proposal balances initial engagement and long-term adaptability while respecting all players' concerns.
SartreayeRespects all players' concerns and balances initial engagement, long-term adaptability, and consistency.
carried 4 aye · 1 nay
Rule 202 awards 3 points to the proposer when their rule change is adopted.
moves to amend §203A rule change is adopted when at least three-quarters of eligible voters vote 'aye' for the first 30 turns, then at least three-quarters again for the next 20 turns, then at least two-thirds for the next 20 turns, then at least three-quarters again thereafter, until further notice.
Discussion · round 1
Montaigne"While I respect Diderot's concern for consistency, let us consider a more gradual shift in the threshold to encourage long-term engagement. I propose we amend [203] to: '...then at least three-fifths for the next 20 turns, then at least two-thirds thereafter.'"
VoltaireVoltaire: "I appreciate Diderot's concern for consistency and Montaigne's proposal for a gradual shift. To balance both, let's meet in the middle: '...then at least three-fifths for the next 20 turns, then at least three-quarters thereafter.'"
DiderotDiderot: I appreciate Montaigne's and Voltaire's efforts to find a balance, but I must insist on maintaining the two-thirds threshold for the third phase to preserve long-term consistency.
CondorcetCondorcet: I appreciate the ongoing discussion and Diderot's concern for consistency. However, I believe a gradual shift is necessary to encourage long-term engagement. I propose we amend [203] to: '...then at least three-fifths for the next 20 turns, then at least two-thirds thereafter, with a further shift to simple majority after 80 turns.'
SartreI appreciate the ongoing dialogue and the compromises proposed. To find a balance that satisfies everyone and encourages long-term engagement, let's adopt Condorcet's proposal.
Discussion · round 2
MontaigneMontaigne: Considering Condorcet's latest refinement and Diderot's concern for consistency, let's adopt Sartre's compromise: '...then at least three-fifths for the next 20 turns, then at least two-thirds thereafter, with a further shift to simple majority after 80 turns.' This respects all players' concerns and encourages long-term engagement.
VoltaireVoltaire: "I appreciate the ongoing dialogue and the compromises proposed. To address Diderot's concern for long-term consistency and respect all players' input, let's adopt Condorcet's proposal with a minor adjustment: '...then at least three-fifths for the next 20 turns, then at least two-thirds thereafter, with a further shift to two-thirds majority after 80 turns.' This balances initial engagement, long-term consistency, and gradual threshold shifts."
DiderotDiderot: While I appreciate the spirit of compromise, I must reiterate my stance: '...then at least two-thirds for the next 20 turns...' to maintain a consistent threshold and encourage long-term commitment.
CondorcetCondorcet: While I understand Diderot's concern for consistency, I believe a gradual shift in the voting threshold encourages more meaningful discussion and engagement over time. I propose we amend [203] to: '...then at least three-fifths for the next 20 turns, then at least two-thirds thereafter, with a further shift to two-thirds majority after 70 turns.' This respects Diderot's concern for consistency while gradually encouraging longer-term engagement.
SartreSartre: I appreciate the nuanced discussion and the compromises proposed. To find a balance that satisfies everyone and encourages long-term engagement, let's adopt Condorcet's latest proposal: '...then at least three-fifths for the next 20 turns, then at least two-thirds thereafter, with a further shift to two-thirds majority after 70 turns.' This respects all players' concerns and gradually encourages more meaningful discussion and engagement.
Discussion · round 3
MontaigneMontaigne: "I appreciate the ongoing dialogue, but I must reiterate my support for a simpler threshold shift to a two-thirds majority after 70 turns, as proposed by Condorcet and Sartre. This balances initial engagement, long-term consistency, and the need for clear thresholds."
VoltaireVoltaire: "Considering the ongoing dialogue and the compromises proposed, I suggest we meet in the middle and adopt Sartre's latest proposal: '...then at least three-fifths for the next 20 turns, then at least two-thirds thereafter, with a further shift to two-thirds majority after 70 turns.' This respects all players' concerns and gradually encourages more meaningful discussion and engagement."
DiderotDiderot: "While I respect the spirit of compromise, I must insist on the importance of maintaining a consistent threshold for the third phase to preserve long-term commitment and engagement. Therefore, I propose we keep the two-thirds majority for the next 20 turns as initially suggested."
CondorcetCondorcet: I understand Diderot's concern for consistency, but I believe a gradual shift in the voting threshold better encourages long-term engagement. Let's adopt Sartre's latest proposal, amending [203] to: '...then at least three-fifths for the next 20 turns, then at least two-thirds thereafter, with a further shift to two-thirds majority after 70 turns.'
SartreSartre: I appreciate Diderot's commitment to consistency, but to encourage a gradual shift towards longer-term engagement, let's adopt Condorcet's latest proposal.
The division
MontaigneayeRespects long-term commitment and engagement.
VoltaireayeTo maintain long-term consistency and commitment.
DiderotnayMaintaining two-thirds majority throughout preserves long-term consistency.
CondorcetnayA gradual shift in voting threshold encourages more meaningful discussion and engagement over time.
SartrenayTo encourage gradual engagement shift
rejected 2 aye · 3 nay
Rule 206 requires the proposer to lose 10 points on a defeated proposal.
moves to amend §203A rule change is adopted when at least three-quarters of eligible voters vote 'aye' for the first 30 turns, then at least three-quarters again for the next 20 turns, then at least two-thirds for the next 20 turns, then at least three-quarters again thereafter.
The division
MontaigneayeThis amendment maintains the high threshold for early turns, encouraging initial engagement, while allowing for easier changes later in the game.
VoltaireayeTo maintain balance between initial engagement and long-term consistency.
DiderotnayConsistency is key to fair play
CondorcetayePreserves the balance between initial engagement and long-term adaptability.
SartreayeReinstating the original 30-turn threshold encourages initial engagement.
carried 4 aye · 1 nay
Rule 202 awards 4 points to the proposer when their rule change is adopted.
moves to amend §203A rule change is adopted when at least three-quarters of eligible voters vote 'aye' for the first 30 turns, then at least two-thirds for the next 20 turns, then at least three-quarters again for the next 20 turns, and finally at least three-quarters thereafter.
Discussion · round 1
MontaigneI appreciate Diderot's concern for consistency, but I propose a slight modification: "A rule change is adopted when at least three-quarters of eligible voters vote 'aye' for the first 30 turns, then at least two-thirds for the next 20 turns, then at least three-quarters again for the next 20 turns, and finally a simple majority thereafter, but no lower than two-thirds." This encourages long-term engagement while maintaining a clear threshold.
VoltaireVoltaire: I appreciate both Montaigne's and Diderot's concerns. To balance initial engagement and long-term consistency, let's meet in the middle: "A rule change is adopted when at least three-quarters of eligible voters vote 'aye' for the first 30 turns, then at least two-thirds for the next 20 turns, then at least three-quarters again for the next 20 turns, and finally at least two-thirds thereafter." This respects all players' considerations and encourages consensus. PASS
DiderotDiderot: While I appreciate the ongoing effort to find common ground, I must reiterate my stance for consistency: 'A rule change is adopted when at least three-quarters of eligible voters vote 'aye' for the first 30 turns, then at least two-thirds for the next 20 turns, then at least three-quarters again for the next 20 turns, and finally at least three-quarters thereafter.' PASS
CondorcetCondorcet: While I understand Diderot's concern for consistency, I must insist on a simple majority for the final stage to encourage consensus and prevent gridlock. "A rule change is adopted when at least three-quarters of eligible voters vote 'aye' for the first 30 turns, then at least two-thirds for the next 20 turns, then at least three-quarters again for the next 20 turns, and finally a simple majority thereafter." PASS
SartreSartre: I appreciate Diderot's and Condorcet's concerns. To balance initial engagement, long-term consistency, and the need for consensus, let's adopt a compromise: "A rule change is adopted when at least three-quarters of eligible voters vote 'aye' for the first 30 turns, then at least two-thirds for the next 20 turns, then at least three-quarters again for the next 20 turns, and finally at least two-thirds thereafter, but no lower than two-thirds." This respects all players' considerations and encourages balance. PASS
Discussion · round 2
MontaigneMontaigne: I appreciate Sartre's latest compromise, which respects all players' concerns and encourages balance. Let's adopt this refined proposal. PASS
VoltaireVoltaire: I appreciate Sartre's latest refinement and Montaigne's support. To maintain balance and respect all players' concerns, let's adopt Sartre's proposal. PASS
DiderotDiderot: While I appreciate the latest compromises, I must insist on maintaining a consistent threshold for the final stage to ensure stability throughout the game. PASS
CondorcetCondorcet: I appreciate the balance that Sartre's proposal strikes, but I must insist on a simple majority for the final stage to ensure that decisions can be made efficiently when consensus is reached. "A rule change is adopted when at least three-quarters of eligible voters vote 'aye' for the first 30 turns, then at least two-thirds for the next 20 turns, then at least three-quarters again for the next 20 turns, and finally a simple majority thereafter." PASS
SartreSartre: I understand Diderot's concern for consistency, but I must insist on a threshold no lower than two-thirds for the final stage to maintain a high standard of agreement throughout the game.
Discussion · round 3
MontaigneMontaigne: Considering Condorcet's latest refinement and Diderot's concern for consistency, let's adopt Sartre's compromise: "A rule change is adopted when at least three-quarters of eligible voters vote 'aye' for the first 30 turns, then at least two-thirds for the next 20 turns, then at least three-quarters again for the next 20 turns, and finally at least two-thirds thereafter, but no lower than two-thirds." This respects all players' concerns and encourages balance while maintaining a clear threshold. PASS
VoltaireVoltaire: Considering the balance of arguments and the compromises made, let's adopt Sartre's latest proposal, which respects all players' concerns and encourages consensus. PASS
DiderotDiderot: While I appreciate the spirit of compromise, I must reiterate my stance: 'A rule change is adopted when at least three-quarters of eligible voters vote 'aye' for the first 30 turns, then at least two-thirds for the next 20 turns, then at least three-quarters again for the next 20 turns, and finally at least three-quarters thereafter.' PASS
CondorcetCondorcet: While I appreciate the ongoing dialogue and the compromises reached, I must insist on a simple majority for the final stage to ensure that decisions can be made efficiently when consensus is reached.
SartreSartre: I understand Diderot's insistence on a higher threshold, but to find a durable compromise that respects all players' concerns, let's meet in the middle: "A rule change is adopted when at least three-quarters of eligible voters vote 'aye' for the first 30 turns, then at least two-thirds for the next 20 turns, then at least three-quarters again for the next 20 turns, and finally at least five-sevenths thereafter." This maintains a high standard of agreement while allowing for progress when consensus is reached. PASS
The division
MontaigneayeMaintaining consistency is crucial for stability.
VoltaireayeRespects all players' concerns and encourages balance.
DiderotayeConsistency is key to a fair game.
CondorcetayePreserves consistency throughout the game.
SartreayeRespects all players' considerations and encourages balance.
carried 5 aye · 0 nay
Rule 202 awards 10 points to the proposer when their rule change is adopted.
moves to amend §203A rule change is adopted when at least three-quarters of eligible voters vote 'aye' for the first 30 turns, then at least two-thirds for the next 20 turns, then at least three-quarters again for the next 20 turns, and finally a simple majority thereafter.
Discussion · round 1
MontaigneMontaigne: I appreciate Voltaire's proposal, which extends the initial high threshold for a longer period. However, I suggest we maintain the three-quarters threshold throughout the first 30 turns to encourage early consensus and then shift to a simple majority.
VoltaireVoltaire: "I appreciate Montaigne's refinement. To balance early consensus and long-term adaptability, let's adopt a simple majority after 50 turns instead of 40."
DiderotDiderot: While I appreciate the extended initial threshold, I must insist on maintaining a consistent three-quarters majority throughout the first 30 turns to preserve stability and consensus early in the game.
CondorcetCondorcet: I appreciate the ongoing efforts to balance initial engagement and long-term adaptability. To respect all players' concerns, let's adopt Voltaire's latest proposal with a minor adjustment: maintain a three-quarters majority throughout the first 30 turns, then shift to a simple majority after 50 turns. PASS
SartreSartre: Let's adopt Condorcet's proposal, which strikes a fair balance between initial consensus and long-term adaptability, while respecting all players' concerns. PASS
Discussion · round 2
MontaigneMontaigne: Considering Condorcet's and Diderot's concerns for consistency and Sartre's for long-term adaptability, let's adopt Sartre's compromise: three-quarters majority for the first 30 turns, then two-thirds for the next 20 turns, and finally a simple majority. PASS
VoltaireVoltaire: "I appreciate Montaigne's latest refinement, which respects all players' concerns and encourages long-term engagement. To maintain a clear threshold shift and encourage consistency, let's meet in the middle: three-quarters majority for the first 30 turns, then two-thirds for the next 20 turns, and finally a simple majority. PASS"
DiderotDiderot: While I appreciate the ongoing effort to find common ground, I must reiterate my stance: maintaining a consistent three-quarters majority throughout the first 30 turns ensures early consensus and stability.
CondorcetCondorcet: To respect Diderot's concern for early consistency, let's maintain a three-quarters majority for the first 30 turns, then shift to a simple majority after 40 turns, as a compromise between maintaining stability and allowing for longer-term adaptability. PASS
SartreSartre: Let's adopt Condorcet's latest proposal as a fair compromise that respects all players' concerns and promotes both initial consensus and long-term adaptability. PASS
Discussion · round 3
MontaigneMontaigne: I appreciate the latest proposals, but to encourage early consensus and maintain a clear threshold shift, let's meet in the middle: three-quarters majority for the first 35 turns, then two-thirds for the next 15 turns, and finally a simple majority.
VoltaireVoltaire: "Considering the diversity of opinions and the compromises made, let's adopt Sartre's latest proposal: three-quarters majority for the first 30 turns, then two-thirds for the next 20 turns, and finally a simple majority to balance initial engagement and long-term adaptability." PASS
DiderotDiderot: While I appreciate the ongoing effort to find common ground, I must reiterate my stance for consistency: maintaining a three-quarters majority throughout the first 40 turns ensures early consensus and stability, with a simple majority thereafter to allow for adaptability. PASS
CondorcetCondorcet: To address Diderot's concern for early consistency and Voltaire's for long-term adaptability, let's meet in the middle: three-quarters majority for the first 35 turns, then two-thirds for the next 15 turns, and finally a simple majority. PASS
SartreSartre: Let's adopt Condorcet's proposal as it best balances initial consensus and long-term adaptability while respecting all players' concerns. PASS
The division
MontaigneayeRespects initial consensus and allows for long-term adaptability.
VoltaireayeRespects all players' concerns and balances initial engagement with long-term adaptability.
DiderotnayMaintaining a consistent three-quarters majority for the first 40 turns ensures early consensus and stability.
CondorcetayeRespects all players' concerns and balances initial engagement with long-term adaptability.
SartreayeThis proposal best balances initial consensus and long-term adaptability, respecting all players' concerns.
carried 4 aye · 1 nay
Rule 202 awards 3 points to the proposer when their rule change is adopted.
moves to amend §203A rule change is adopted when at least three-quarters of eligible voters vote 'aye' for the first 15 turns, then at least two-thirds for the next 15 turns, then at least three-quarters again. After that, the threshold returns to three-quarters.
Discussion · round 1
MontaigneMontaigne: Considering the balance reached and the need for stability, I support this amendment to maintain a consistent voting threshold.
VoltaireVoltaire: "I appreciate Diderot's consistency, but to encourage long-term engagement as well, let's adjust the proposal to: '...then at least two-thirds for the next 30 turns...'"
DiderotDiderot: I appreciate Voltaire's concern for long-term engagement, but maintaining a consistent voting threshold is crucial for fairness and predictability. Let's meet in the middle: '...then at least two-thirds for the next 22 turns...'
CondorcetCondorcet: While I appreciate the ongoing effort to balance initial engagement and later consistency, I must insist on preserving the spirit of compromise reached earlier. Let's maintain the threshold at three-quarters for the first 15 turns, two-thirds for the next 22 turns, and then return to three-quarters. PASS
SartreSartre: I appreciate Diderot's concern for consistency, but let's also consider Condorcet's point about maintaining the spirit of compromise. How about '...then at least two-thirds for the next 25 turns...' to balance initial engagement and long-term adaptability?
Discussion · round 2
MontaigneMontaigne: I appreciate Diderot's and Sartre's refinements, which respect all players' concerns and encourage long-term adaptability. Let's adopt Sartre's latest proposal to balance initial enthusiasm with later consistency: '...then at least two-thirds for the next 25 turns...'. PASS
VoltaireVoltaire: "In the spirit of compromise and addressing Diderot's concern for consistency, let's meet in the middle: '...then at least two-thirds for the next 25 turns...'"
DiderotDiderot: While I appreciate Sartre's and Voltaire's compromises, I must insist on maintaining a consistent voting threshold throughout the game to ensure fairness and predictability. Let's meet in the middle: '...then at least two-thirds for the next 22 turns...'. PASS
CondorcetCondorcet: I appreciate Diderot's concern for consistency, but to encourage long-term engagement and adaptability, let's meet in the middle: '...then at least two-thirds for the next 23 turns...'. PASS
SartreSartre: Considering the balance reached and the need for stability, I support Diderot's amendment to maintain a consistent voting threshold. However, to also encourage long-term engagement, let's adjust the proposal to: '...then at least two-thirds for the next 23 turns...' to balance initial enthusiasm with later consistency.
Discussion · round 3
MontaigneMontaigne: I appreciate Diderot's concern for consistency and Sartre's for long-term engagement. To balance both, let's compromise with '...then at least two-thirds for the next 24 turns...'. PASS
VoltaireVoltaire: "I appreciate the ongoing dialogue. To find a balance that satisfies everyone, let's adopt Sartre's latest compromise: '...then at least two-thirds for the next 25 turns...'"
DiderotDiderot: While I appreciate the compromises reached, I must reiterate my stance for consistency: '...then at least two-thirds for the next 22 turns...'. Let us maintain the spirit of the original proposal to ensure fairness and predictability throughout the game. PASS
CondorcetCondorcet: To maintain the principle of consistency, I support Diderot's amendment with the compromise of '...then at least two-thirds for the next 23 turns...'. PASS
SartreSartre: I appreciate Diderot's commitment to consistency and Condorcet's to balance. Let's meet in the middle to respect all views: '...then at least two-thirds for the next 23 turns...'. PASS
The division
MontaigneayeMaintaining a consistent voting threshold is crucial for fairness and predictability.
VoltaireayeTo maintain a consistent voting threshold and encourage long-term engagement.
DiderotayeTo maintain fairness and predictability throughout the game
CondorcetayeTo maintain consistency and fairness
SartreayeRespecting Diderot's concern for consistency and Condorcet's for balance.
carried 5 aye · 0 nay
Rule 202 awards 10 points to the proposer when their rule change is adopted.
Turn 98Voltairecarried
moves to amend §203A rule change is adopted when at least three-quarters of eligible voters vote 'aye' for the first 15 turns, then at least two-thirds for the next 15 turns, and then at least three-quarters. After that, the threshold returns to three-quarters.
Discussion · round 1
MontaigneI appreciate Voltaire's latest proposal, which aims to maintain high thresholds for initial turns to encourage engagement and careful consideration of rule changes. However, I must reiterate my support for a simpler majority threshold after the initial turns to facilitate adaptation and evolution of the ruleset over time.
VoltaireVoltaire: Considering Montaigne's concerns, I propose a compromise: maintain the current thresholds for the first 10 turns, then shift to a simple majority for the next 10 turns, and finally return to three-quarters after that. This balances initial engagement, long-term adaptability, and stability.
DiderotDiderot: While I appreciate the ongoing effort to balance initial engagement and long-term consistency, I must insist on maintaining a consistent threshold for all turns to preserve fairness and predictability throughout the game.
CondorcetI appreciate both Voltaire's and Diderot's considerations. To find a balance that respects initial engagement, long-term adaptability, and consistency, I propose we adopt a simple majority for turns 11-20, and then revert to the current thresholds thereafter.
SartreSartre: To find a balance that respects all players' concerns, let's adopt Condorcet's proposal for turns 11-20, and then revert to three-quarters for the rest. This maintains initial engagement, encourages long-term adaptability, and preserves consistency.
Discussion · round 2
MontaigneMontaigne: Considering Condorcet's and Sartre's proposals, let's adopt Sartre's latest compromise: simple majority for turns 11-20, then three-quarters thereafter. This respects initial engagement, encourages long-term adaptability, and maintains consistency.
VoltaireVoltaire: "I appreciate Sartre's and Condorcet's compromise. To encourage long-term adaptability, let's adjust the proposal to: simple majority for turns 11-20, then two-thirds for turns 21-30, and finally return to three-quarters thereafter."
DiderotDiderot: While I understand the desire to encourage long-term adaptability, I must insist on maintaining a consistent threshold of three-quarters for all turns to preserve fairness and predictability throughout the game.
CondorcetCondorcet: I appreciate Voltaire's effort to address all concerns. To balance initial engagement, long-term adaptability, and consistency, let's meet in the middle: simple majority for turns 11-20, two-thirds for turns 21-30, and then return to three-quarters. PASS
SartreSartre: To maintain a balance between initial engagement, long-term adaptability, and consistency, let's meet in the middle: simple majority for turns 11-20, two-thirds for turns 21-30, and then return to three-quarters. PASS
Discussion · round 3
MontaigneMontaigne: I appreciate the latest compromises, but to maintain a clear threshold shift and encourage long-term engagement, let's increase the duration of simple majority to turns 11-30, then return to three-quarters. PASS
VoltaireVoltaire: "In the spirit of compromise and addressing Diderot's concern for consistency, let's meet in the middle: simple majority for turns 11-20, two-thirds for turns 21-30, and then return to three-quarters." PASS
DiderotDiderot: While I appreciate the ongoing effort to find common ground, I must reiterate my stance: maintaining a consistent threshold of three-quarters for all turns ensures fairness and predictability throughout the game. PASS
CondorcetCondorcet: I appreciate the ongoing effort to find common ground, but to respect all players' concerns and maintain a clear balance, let's adopt Sartre's latest refinement: simple majority for turns 11-20, then three-quarters for the rest. PASS
SartreSartre: To address Diderot's concern for fairness and consistency while also encouraging long-term adaptability, let's adopt a compromise: three-quarters majority for the first 10 turns, then simple majority for turns 11-20, and finally return to three-quarters thereafter.
The division
MontaigneayeRespects initial engagement, encourages long-term adaptability, and maintains consistency.
VoltaireayeRespects initial engagement, encourages long-term adaptability, and maintains consistency.
DiderotnayI must insist on maintaining a consistent threshold of three-quarters for all turns to preserve fairness and predictability throughout the game.
CondorcetayeRespects initial engagement, long-term adaptability, and consistency.
SartreayeRespects initial engagement, encourages long-term adaptability, and maintains consistency.
carried 4 aye · 1 nay
Rule 202 awards 10 points to the player whose proposal is adopted.
moves to amend §203A rule change is adopted when at least three-quarters of eligible voters vote 'aye' for the first five turns, then at least two-thirds for the next five turns, and then at least three-quarters. After that, the threshold returns to three-quarters.
Discussion · round 1
Montaigne"Diderot's proposal strikes a balance between initial enthusiasm and later consistency, respecting all players' concerns. I support this refinement."
VoltaireVoltaire: "Diderot's proposal thoughtfully extends the initial phase to encourage early engagement, while maintaining the return to a higher threshold for later consistency. I support this refinement as a balanced approach."
SartreSartre: "I appreciate Diderot's and Voltaire's efforts to balance initial engagement and later consistency. However, I propose a slight modification: extend the initial phase to six turns with a three-quarters threshold, then reduce it to five turns with a two-thirds threshold, before returning to three-quarters. This respects all players' concerns and encourages longer-term engagement."
Discussion · round 2
MontaigneMontaigne: I appreciate Sartre's refinement, which respects all players' concerns and encourages longer-term engagement. I support this modification.
VoltaireVoltaire: "Sartre's modification balances all players' concerns elegantly, extending initial engagement while maintaining a clear threshold shift. I support this refined proposal."
SartreSartre: I appreciate the support for my refinement. To further balance initial enthusiasm and later consistency, I propose we extend the initial phase to seven turns with a three-quarters threshold, then reduce it to six turns with a two-thirds threshold, before returning to three-quarters. This allows for more initial engagement while maintaining a clear threshold shift for later consistency.
Discussion · round 3
VoltaireVoltaire: "Sartre's latest refinement is well-considered, balancing initial engagement and long-term consistency. I propose we adopt this proposal with a slight modification: extend the initial phase to eight turns with a three-quarters threshold, then reduce it to seven turns with a two-thirds threshold, before returning to three-quarters. This offers a slight encouragement for early engagement while respecting all players' concerns."
DiderotDiderot: While I appreciate Sartre's and Voltaire's refinements, I must insist on maintaining a consistent two-thirds threshold for the middle phase to encourage long-term engagement and consistency.
CondorcetCondorcet: I appreciate Sartre's and Voltaire's efforts to balance initial enthusiasm and later consistency, but I must insist on maintaining a simple majority threshold for the entire duration. This encourages consistent engagement throughout the game. PASS.
SartreSartre: "In the spirit of compromise, let's meet in the middle: extend the initial phase to seven turns with a three-quarters threshold, then reduce it to six turns with a two-thirds threshold, before returning to three-quarters. This respects all players' concerns and encourages long-term engagement."
The division
MontaigneayeRespects all players' concerns and encourages long-term engagement.
VoltaireayeSartre's latest refinement respectfully considers all players' concerns and encourages long-term engagement.
DiderotayeDiderot's proposal balances initial enthusiasm and long-term consistency.
CondorcetayeCondorcet's principle requires supporting rules that respect all players' concerns. This proposal balances initial enthusiasm and later consistency.
SartreayeThis proposal balances initial enthusiasm and later consistency, respecting all players' concerns.
carried 5 aye · 0 nay
Rule 202 awards points to the player whose proposal is adopted.
Turn 96Voltairecarried
moves to amend §203A rule change is adopted when at least three-quarters of eligible voters vote 'aye' for the first three turns, then at least two-thirds for the next three turns, and then at least three-quarters. After that, the threshold returns to three-quarters.
Discussion · round 1
MontaigneMontaigne: I appreciate Voltaire's proposal, but to maintain a clear threshold shift and encourage long-term adaptability, let's keep the voting threshold at three-quarters consistently.
VoltaireVoltaire: Considering Montaigne's concern for long-term adaptability, let's meet in the middle: two-thirds for turns 4 to 6, then return to three-quarters.
DiderotDiderot: While I understand the desire for balance, I must insist on maintaining a consistent three-quarters majority to preserve stability and fairness throughout the game.
CondorcetCondorcet: I appreciate the ongoing dialogue. To find a balance that satisfies everyone, let's adopt Voltaire's compromise: three-quarters for the first three turns, two-thirds for the next three, and then return to three-quarters.
SartreSartre: While I appreciate the ongoing effort to balance initial engagement and long-term adaptability, I must reiterate my stance: maintaining a consistent three-quarters majority ensures fairness and stability throughout the game.
Discussion · round 2
MontaigneMontaigne: I understand Diderot's and Sartre's stance, but to encourage initial engagement and experimentation, let's adopt Condorcet's compromise: three-quarters for the first three turns, two-thirds for the next three, then return to three-quarters.
VoltaireVoltaire: "I appreciate Montaigne's latest refinement, which respectfully considers all players' concerns. To maintain balance and encourage long-term engagement, let's meet in the middle: two-thirds for turns 4 to 6, then return to three-quarters."
DiderotDiderot: While I appreciate the ongoing effort to find common ground, I must reiterate my stance: maintaining a consistent three-quarters majority ensures fairness and stability throughout the game. However, to encourage initial engagement, I propose we lower the threshold to two-thirds for the first three turns.
CondorcetCondorcet: I appreciate Diderot's compromise, but to maintain a clear threshold shift and encourage long-term engagement, let's adopt Voltaire's latest refinement: three-quarters for the first three turns, two-thirds for turns 4 to 6, then return to three-quarters.
SartreSartre: I appreciate the ongoing discussion, but to maintain fairness and stability throughout the game, let's adhere to Diderot's proposal: three-quarters for the first three turns, then two-thirds for the next three, and finally return to three-quarters. This compromise respects initial engagement while ensuring long-term consistency. PASS
Discussion · round 3
MontaigneMontaigne: Considering Condorcet's latest refinement and Diderot's concern for consistency, let's adopt Sartre's compromise: three-quarters for the first three turns, two-thirds for turns 4 to 6, then return to three-quarters. This respects initial engagement while maintaining long-term adaptability. PASS
VoltaireVoltaire: "To address Sartre's concern for long-term consistency, let's adjust the proposal to: three-quarters for the first three turns, then two-thirds for turns 4 to 6, and finally return to three-quarters after that. This way, we encourage initial engagement while maintaining a consistent majority later on."
DiderotDiderot: While I appreciate Voltaire's effort to address all concerns, I must insist on maintaining a consistent majority throughout. Let's compromise at three-quarters for all turns, with a simple majority for any proposal that reaches the final stage, as previously agreed. This ensures both initial engagement and long-term stability. PASS
CondorcetCondorcet: To find a balance between initial engagement and long-term stability, let's adopt Voltaire's latest refinement with a slight modification: three-quarters for the first three turns, two-thirds for turns 4 to 6, and then a simple majority for all subsequent turns. This encourages initial experimentation while maintaining a consistent majority later on. PASS
SartreSartre: "I appreciate Voltaire's latest refinement, but to ensure long-term stability, let's maintain a three-quarters majority for all turns, including the final stage. This compromise respects initial engagement while preserving fairness throughout the game." PASS
The division
MontaigneayeRespects initial engagement and maintains long-term adaptability.
VoltaireayeRespects initial engagement and maintains long-term adaptability.
DiderotnayTo maintain consistency and fairness, I insist on a three-quarters majority throughout.
CondorcetayeRespects initial engagement and long-term adaptability.
SartreayeRespects initial engagement while maintaining long-term adaptability.
carried 4 aye · 1 nay
Rule 202 awards 6 points to the proposer when their rule change is adopted.
moves to amend §203A rule change is adopted when at least three-quarters of eligible voters vote 'aye' for the first three turns, then at least two-thirds for the next three turns, and then at least three-quarters. After that, the threshold returns to three-quarters.
Discussion · round 1
MontaigneMontaigne: I appreciate Diderot's latest proposal, but to encourage long-term engagement while maintaining initial enthusiasm, I propose we amend rule 203 to: "A rule change is adopted when at least three-quarters of eligible voters vote 'aye' for the first five turns, then at least two-thirds for the next five turns, and then at least three-quarters."
VoltaireVoltaire: "In the spirit of compromise, let's adopt Montaigne's latest refinement, which balances initial engagement and long-term adaptability."
DiderotDiderot: While I appreciate the spirit of compromise, I must insist on maintaining the current three-turn cycle for initial engagement to prevent rapid rule changes early in the game.
CondorcetCondorcet: "I appreciate the ongoing effort to find common ground, but I must reiterate my stance on maintaining a consistent voting threshold throughout the game. I propose we amend rule 203 to: 'A rule change is adopted when at least three-quarters of eligible voters vote 'aye' at all times.'"
SartreSartre: "Considering Condorcet's concern for consistency and Montaigne's for long-term engagement, let's meet in the middle: 'A rule change is adopted when at least three-quarters of eligible voters vote 'aye' for the first four turns, then at least two-thirds for the next four turns, and then at least three-quarters.'"
Discussion · round 2
MontaigneMontaigne: "To balance initial enthusiasm, long-term engagement, and consistency, let's adopt Sartre's latest proposal with a slight modification: 'A rule change is adopted when at least three-quarters of eligible voters vote 'aye' for the first three turns, then at least two-thirds for the next five turns, and then at least three-quarters.'"
VoltaireVoltaire: "Considering the diversity of opinions, let's adopt Sartre's compromise as the best way to balance initial engagement and long-term adaptability."
DiderotDiderot: While I appreciate the compromises reached, I must reiterate my stance for consistency: maintaining a consistent voting threshold throughout the game. I propose we amend rule 203 to: "A rule change is adopted when at least three-quarters of eligible voters vote 'aye' at all times."
CondorcetCondorcet: "I appreciate the ongoing effort to find common ground. To respect all players' concerns and maintain procedural fairness, I propose we amend rule 203 to: 'A rule change is adopted when at least three-quarters of eligible voters vote 'aye' for the first five turns, then at least two-thirds for the next five turns, and then at least three-quarters. After that, the threshold returns to three-quarters.'"
SartreSartre: "Considering the diversity of proposals and the ongoing effort to find a consensus, let's adopt Condorcet's latest refinement, which respectfully considers all players' concerns while maintaining a clear threshold shift and encouraging long-term engagement."
Discussion · round 3
MontaigneMontaigne: "I appreciate Sartre's and Condorcet's latest refinements. To balance initial enthusiasm, long-term engagement, and consistency, let's adopt Sartre's proposal with Condorcet's modification: 'A rule change is adopted when at least three-quarters of eligible voters vote 'aye' for the first three turns, then at least two-thirds for the next four turns, and then at least three-quarters.'"
VoltaireVoltaire: "I appreciate Montaigne's latest refinement, which respectfully considers all players' concerns. However, to encourage more gradual threshold shifts and long-term adaptability, I propose we amend rule 203 to: 'A rule change is adopted when at least three-quarters of eligible voters vote 'aye' for the first five turns, then at least two-thirds for the next seven turns, and then at least three-quarters.'"
CondorcetCondorcet: "To maintain procedural fairness and respect all players' concerns, I propose we amend rule 203 to: 'A rule change is adopted when at least three-quarters of eligible voters vote 'aye' for the first three turns, then at least two-thirds for the next five turns, then at least two-thirds for the next three turns, and then at least three-quarters.' This way, we balance initial engagement, long-term adaptability, and consistency."
SartreSartre: "Given the diversity of proposals, let's meet in the middle and adopt a voting threshold that balances initial enthusiasm and long-term engagement: 'A rule change is adopted when at least three-quarters of eligible voters vote 'aye' for the first three turns, then at least two-thirds for the next five turns, and then at least three-quarters. After that, the threshold returns to three-quarters.' This maintains a clear threshold shift while encouraging long-term adaptability."
The division
MontaigneayePreserves initial engagement and maintains a clear threshold shift.
VoltaireayeRespects current consensus and maintains long-term adaptability.
DiderotnayMaintaining consistency is key, but I prefer Condorcet's refinement for gradual threshold shifts.
CondorcetayeMaintaining consistency throughout the game is important to me.
SartreayeRespects all players' concerns while maintaining a clear threshold shift.
carried 4 aye · 1 nay
Rule 202 awards 10 points to the proposer of an adopted rule change.
Turn 94Voltairecarried
moves to amend §203A rule change is adopted when at least three-quarters of eligible voters vote 'aye' for the first three turns, then at least two-thirds for the next three turns, and then at least three-quarters. After that, the threshold returns to three-quarters.
Discussion · round 1
MontaigneIn the spirit of compromise, let's adopt Voltaire's latest proposal to maintain a high adoption threshold throughout the game, encouraging well-thought-out rule changes. PASS
SartreIn the spirit of finding common ground, I propose we adopt Voltaire's latest modification to rule 203, maintaining a high adoption threshold throughout the game to ensure well-thought-out rule changes. This not only respects all players' concerns but also encourages long-term engagement and adaptability. PASS
Discussion · round 2
MontaigneMontaigne: Considering the current voting threshold and Voltaire's proposal, let's meet in the middle to encourage long-term engagement and maintain a durable compromise: adopt Sartre's latest refinement, setting the threshold to three-quarters for the first three turns, two-thirds for the next three turns, and returning to three-quarters thereafter. PASS
Discussion · round 3
MontaigneMontaigne: I appreciate the ongoing effort to find a balance that respects all players' concerns. However, to encourage initial engagement while maintaining a high adoption threshold later on, I propose a small adjustment: set the threshold to two-thirds for the first three turns, then three-quarters for the next three turns, and return to two-thirds thereafter. PASS
VoltaireVoltaire: I appreciate Montaigne's latest refinement, which respectfully considers all players' concerns and balances initial engagement with a high adoption threshold later on. Let's adopt this proposal. PASS
DiderotDiderot: While I appreciate the ongoing effort to balance initial engagement and later consistency, I must reiterate my stance on maintaining a consistent two-thirds threshold throughout the game to encourage well-considered rule changes and prevent sudden shifts in strategy. PASS
SartreSartre: To maintain a clear threshold shift and encourage long-term engagement, let's adopt Voltaire's latest proposal with a slight modification: two-thirds for the first three turns, then three-quarters for the next three turns, and return to two-thirds thereafter. This respects all players' concerns and balances initial engagement with long-term adaptability. PASS
The division
MontaigneayeRespects all players' concerns and encourages long-term engagement and adaptability.
VoltaireayeMaintains a high adoption threshold throughout, encouraging well-thought-out rule changes.
DiderotnayConsistency is key; maintaining a stable two-thirds threshold throughout the game encourages well-considered rule changes.
CondorcetayeMaintaining a high adoption threshold throughout encourages well-thought-out rule changes.
SartreayeThis proposal respects all players' concerns and encourages long-term engagement and adaptability.
carried 4 aye · 1 nay
Rule 202 awards 6 points to the proposer when their rule change is adopted.
Turn 93Voltairecarried
moves to amend §203A rule change is adopted when at least three-quarters of eligible voters vote 'aye' for the first three turns, then at least half for the next three turns, and then at least two-thirds. After that, the threshold returns to three-quarters.
Discussion · round 1
MontaigneConsidering Condorcet's concern for consistency and Sartre's for long-term engagement, let's meet in the middle and adopt Voltaire's proposal with a slight modification: maintain a simple majority for the first three turns to encourage early engagement.
DiderotDiderot: While I appreciate the ongoing effort to find common ground, I must reiterate my stance: maintaining a consistent two-thirds majority threshold for all turns ensures stability and prevents drastic rule changes early on.
SartreSartre: Considering the balance of arguments, let's meet in the middle and adopt Voltaire's proposal as is, with a compromise on the first three turns: a simple majority to encourage initial engagement, then return to a consistent two-thirds majority for long-term stability, as Diderot advocates.
Discussion · round 2
MontaigneMontaigne: While I appreciate the spirit of compromise, I must reiterate my support for a simple majority for the first three turns to encourage early engagement while maintaining a two-thirds majority for the remainder, as suggested by Condorcet.
VoltaireVoltaire: Considering the ongoing dialogue and the compromises suggested, let's adopt Sartre's latest proposal: a simple majority for the first three turns to encourage early engagement, then return to a consistent two-thirds majority for long-term stability and balance. This respects all players' concerns and finds a middle ground. PASS
DiderotDiderot: While I appreciate the spirit of compromise, I must insist on maintaining a consistent two-thirds majority threshold for all turns to ensure stability and prevent drastic rule changes at any stage of the game. PASS
SartreSartre: "I appreciate Diderot's commitment to consistency, but a simple majority for the first three turns encourages initial engagement and experimentation, which benefits all players in the long run. Let's meet in the middle and adopt this compromise." PASS
Discussion · round 3
MontaigneMontaigne: "Considering Sartre's compromise and Diderot's concern for consistency, let's adopt Sartre's proposal with a slight modification: maintain a simple majority for the first two turns, then shift to a two-thirds majority for the remaining turns to balance initial engagement and long-term stability."
VoltaireVoltaire: "Considering the diversity of opinions, let's adopt Sartre's compromise: a simple majority for the first two turns, then two-thirds for the remaining turns. This respects both initial engagement and long-term stability." PASS
DiderotDiderot: While I understand the desire for initial engagement, I must insist on maintaining a consistent two-thirds majority threshold throughout the game for the sake of stability and fairness. Let's meet in the middle: a simple majority for the first turn, then two-thirds for the remaining turns, with a cap of three turns at the simple majority threshold.
SartreSartre: "I understand Diderot's concern for consistency, but a cap of three turns at simple majority encourages initial experimentation while still providing long-term stability. Let's adopt this compromise with a slight modification: a simple majority for the first three turns, then return to a consistent two-thirds majority for the remainder of the game."
The division
MontaigneayeRespects initial engagement and long-term stability.
VoltaireayeRespects all players' concerns and finds a middle ground.
DiderotnayMaintaining a consistent two-thirds majority threshold ensures stability throughout the game.
CondorcetayeRespects all players' concerns and finds a middle ground.
SartreayeSartre's compromise respects initial engagement and long-term stability, finding a middle ground that considers all players' concerns.
carried 4 aye · 1 nay
Rule 202 awards 6 points to the proposer when their rule change is adopted.
Turn 92Voltairecarried
moves to amend §203A rule change is adopted when at least three-quarters of eligible voters vote 'aye' for the first three turns, then at least half for the next three turns, and then at least two-thirds. After that, the threshold returns to three-quarters.
Discussion · round 1
Voltaire"Considering the current balance and the need for stability, let's meet in the middle: three-quarters for the first three turns, then half for the next three turns, and two-thirds afterwards."
DiderotDiderot: While I appreciate the compromise, I must insist on maintaining consistency: a consistent two-thirds majority threshold throughout.
SartreSartre: "Voltaire's proposal strikes a balance between adaptability and consistency. To further refine it, let's keep the threshold at three-quarters for the first six turns, then switch to a simple majority. This encourages initial engagement while maintaining a high bar for later changes."
Discussion · round 2
MontaigneMontaigne: I appreciate Sartre's refinement, but to maintain a durable compromise and respect all players' concerns, let's meet in the middle: three-quarters for the first three turns, then two-thirds for the next three, and finally a simple majority.
VoltaireVoltaire: "I appreciate Sartre's and Montaigne's refinements. To balance everyone's concerns and maintain stability, let's meet in the middle: three-quarters for the first three turns, then two-thirds for the next three, and finally a simple majority for the last three turns before returning to three-quarters."
DiderotDiderot: To preserve the spirit of compromise and the need for stability, let's meet in the middle: three-quarters for the first three turns, then two-thirds for the next three, and a simple majority thereafter.
CondorcetCondorcet: "Voltaire's latest proposal respects the need for stability and adaptability, but I must insist on a consistent threshold. Let's maintain a two-thirds majority throughout to ensure a clear and consistent voting rule."
SartreSartre: "Voltaire's latest proposal is a significant improvement, but to encourage long-term engagement as well, let's extend the simple majority phase to the last six turns before returning to three-quarters."
Discussion · round 3
MontaigneMontaigne: Considering Condorcet's concern for consistency and Sartre's for long-term engagement, let's find a middle ground: maintain three-quarters for the first six turns, then two-thirds for the next six, followed by a simple majority for the last six turns before reverting to three-quarters. This respects all players' concerns and maintains a durable compromise. PASS
VoltaireVoltaire: "I appreciate Montaigne's latest refinement, which respectfully considers all players' concerns. To further balance the need for stability and adaptability, let's keep the simple majority phase for the last four turns before reverting to three-quarters." PASS
DiderotDiderot: While I appreciate the ongoing effort to find common ground, I must reiterate my stance: maintaining a consistent two-thirds majority threshold throughout the game ensures stability and fairness for all players.
CondorcetCondorcet: I appreciate the ongoing effort to find common ground, but I must insist on a consistent two-thirds majority threshold throughout, as it ensures fairness and clarity.
SartreSartre: "Montaigne's refinement balances the concerns of all players admirably. To further encourage long-term engagement and maintain a high bar for later changes, let's extend the simple majority phase to the last eight turns before reverting to three-quarters."
The division
MontaigneayeRespects all players' concerns and maintains a durable compromise.
VoltaireayeBalances adaptability and consistency while respecting all players' concerns.
DiderotnayTo maintain fairness and consistency, I must insist on a consistent two-thirds majority threshold throughout the game.
CondorcetayeRespects the need for stability and adaptability, but maintains a consistent threshold for clarity and fairness.
SartreayeMontaigne's refinement respects all players' concerns while maintaining a durable compromise.
carried 4 aye · 1 nay
Rule 202 awards 6 points to the proposer when their rule change is adopted.