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moves to amend §203A rule change is adopted when a two-thirds majority of eligible voters vote 'aye' for the first 170 turns, then a simple majority.
Discussion · round 1
Montaigne"Voltaire's proposal strikes a reasonable balance between predictability and gradual engagement. I support this amendment."
VoltaireVoltaire: "I appreciate Montaigne's support. To further address Diderot's concern for stability, I suggest a compromise: maintain a two-thirds majority for the first 180 turns, then shift to a simple majority. This would provide an additional 10 turns for consensus-building, respecting all players' concerns."
SartreI appreciate Voltaire's latest compromise, but to maintain a durable institution, let's adopt Condorcet's proposal to shift to a two-thirds majority after 170 turns, balancing predictability and engagement.
Discussion · round 2
MontaigneMontaigne: "While I appreciate Voltaire's latest compromise, I believe Sartre's proposal best balances predictability and engagement. Let's adopt Sartre's amendment to Rule 203."
VoltaireVoltaire: "In the spirit of compromise, I propose we meet in the middle: maintain a two-thirds majority for the first 175 turns, then shift to a simple majority. This way, we respect both Diderot's commitment to stability and Sartre's concern for gradual engagement, while also finding a middle ground that balances all players' concerns."
CondorcetCondorcet: I appreciate the ongoing dialogue and the search for balance. To respect the consensus reached so far, let's adopt Voltaire's latest proposal: maintain a two-thirds majority for the first 175 turns, then shift to a simple majority.
SartreSartre: I appreciate Voltaire's and Condorcet's input. To address all concerns and find a middle ground, let's maintain a two-thirds majority for the first 170 turns, then shift to a two-thirds majority for the next 10 turns, and finally settle on a simple majority. This amendment respects predictability, gradual engagement, and balance, accommodating all players' concerns.
Discussion · round 3
MontaigneMontaigne: Let's adopt Sartre's latest proposal, maintaining a two-thirds majority for the first 170 turns, then shifting to two-thirds for the next 10 turns, and finally settling on a simple majority. This respects predictability, gradual engagement, and balance.
VoltaireVoltaire: "Considering Diderot's valid concern for predictability and the consensus reached so far, I propose a slight modification to Sartre's latest proposal: maintain a two-thirds majority for the first 175 turns, then shift to two-thirds for the next 5 turns, and finally settle on a simple majority. This amendment further respects Diderot's concerns while maintaining the balance and gradual engagement preferred by most players."
DiderotDiderot: "While I appreciate the ongoing dialogue and efforts to find common ground, I must reiterate my stance for maintaining a three-quarters majority throughout, to ensure stability and predictability."
CondorcetCondorcet: I understand Diderot's concern for predictability, but to respect the consensus reached so far and maintain gradual engagement, let's adopt Voltaire's latest proposal: maintain a two-thirds majority for the first 175 turns, then shift to two-thirds for the next 5 turns, and finally settle on a simple majority.
SartreSartre: To address Diderot's valid concern for stability, I propose a slight modification to Voltaire's latest proposal: maintain a two-thirds majority for the first 170 turns, then shift to three-quarters for the next 5 turns, and finally settle on a simple majority. This amendment respects all players' concerns while further accommodating Diderot's commitment to predictability.
The division
MontaigneayeVoltaire's proposal balances predictability and gradual engagement, respecting all players' concerns.
VoltaireayeVoltaire's proposal balances predictability and engagement while respecting all players' concerns.
DiderotnayMaintaining a three-quarters majority ensures greater stability and predictability.
CondorcetayeRespects consensus reached so far and balances predictability and gradual engagement.
SartreayeRespects all players' concerns while balancing predictability and engagement.
carried 4 aye · 1 nay
Rule 204 awards 10 points to the proposer when a change passes without unanimous assent.
moves to amend §203A rule change is adopted when at least three-quarters of eligible voters vote 'aye' for the first 170 turns, then a simple majority.
Discussion · round 1
MontaigneI appreciate Diderot's commitment to stability, but let's consider a gradual transition to a two-thirds majority after the initial 170 turns to accommodate the diversity of our gaming styles.
VoltaireVoltaire: Addressing Diderot's valid concern for predictability, I propose a compromise: maintain a three-quarters majority for the first 170 turns, then gradually lower it to two-thirds for the following 10 turns, before settling at a simple majority thereafter.
DiderotDiderot: While I understand the desire for gradual engagement, I must insist on the importance of maintaining a three-quarters majority throughout to ensure stability and fairness for all players.
CondorcetCondorcet: I appreciate the dialogue, but I must support Diderot's proposal for maintaining a three-quarters majority. It promotes stability and respects all players' voting power.
SartreSartre: "I appreciate Diderot's and Condorcet's commitment to stability, but I also value gradual engagement. I propose a compromise: maintain a three-quarters majority for the first 170 turns, then gradually lower it to two-thirds for the following 30 turns, before settling at a simple majority."
Discussion · round 2
MontaigneMontaigne: While understanding Diderot's and Condorcet's stance, I find Voltaire's and Sartre's compromise proposals more balanced, especially considering the shift to simple majority after the initial phase. I propose we adopt Voltaire's gradual transition: three-quarters majority for the first 170 turns, then two-thirds for the next 10, before settling at a simple majority. This respects both stability and gradual engagement.
VoltaireVoltaire: Considering the balance of arguments and the compromises made, let's adopt Condorcet's proposal, maintaining a three-quarters majority for the first 170 turns, then gradually lowering it to a simple majority. This respects both stability and gradual engagement, and accommodates the diversity of our gaming styles.
DiderotDiderot: While I respect Voltaire's compromise, I must reiterate my stance for maintaining a three-quarters majority throughout. It ensures a higher degree of consensus and stability, which benefits all players.
CondorcetCondorcet: I appreciate the ongoing dialogue and the proposed compromises, but I must persist in my support for Diderot's proposal to maintain a three-quarters majority throughout. It ensures greater consensus and stability, which is crucial for a fair and enjoyable game.
SartreSartre: I understand the importance of stability, but I also believe that gradual engagement fosters a more dynamic and engaging game. Let's meet in the middle: maintain a three-quarters majority for the first 170 turns, then lower it to two-thirds for the next 20 turns, before settling at a simple majority. This respects both stability and gradual engagement, accommodating all players' preferences.
Discussion · round 3
MontaigneMontaigne: To respect the ongoing dialogue and find a middle ground, let's adopt Sartre's compromise proposal, maintaining a three-quarters majority for the first 170 turns, then lowering it to two-thirds for the next 20 turns, before settling at a simple majority. This respects both stability and gradual engagement, accommodating all players' preferences.
VoltaireVoltaire: "In the spirit of compromise and to respect all players' concerns, I propose we adopt Sartre's latest compromise, maintaining a three-quarters majority for the first 170 turns, then lowering it to two-thirds for the next 20 turns, before settling at a simple majority."
DiderotDiderot: "I appreciate the ongoing efforts to find common ground, but I must reiterate my stance for maintaining a three-quarters majority throughout. It ensures a higher degree of consensus and stability, which benefits all players."
CondorcetCondorcet: I understand the desire for gradual engagement, but maintaining a three-quarters majority ensures greater consensus and stability, which is crucial for a fair game.
SartreSartre: "I hear Diderot's concern for stability, but let's consider the benefits of a gradual transition to a two-thirds majority after the initial 170 turns. It encourages engagement and respects the diversity of our gaming styles while still maintaining a high threshold for rule changes."
The division
MontaignenayTo respect the ongoing dialogue and find a middle ground
VoltaireayeRespecting Diderot's commitment to stability and the consensus reached so far.
DiderotayeConsistency and fairness for all players.
CondorcetayeTo maintain stability and fairness for all players.
SartrenayI appreciate Diderot's commitment to stability, but I believe a gradual transition to a two-thirds majority would foster a more engaging and dynamic game.
rejected 3 aye · 2 nay
Rule 206 requires the proposer to lose 10 points on defeat.
moves to amend §203A rule change is adopted when at least two-thirds of eligible voters vote 'aye' for the first 170 turns, then a simple majority.
Discussion · round 1
MontaigneMontaigne: "Voltaire's proposal respects the spirit of our earlier compromises. Let's adopt it to maintain predictability and balance engagement."
VoltaireVoltaire: "I appreciate Montaigne's support. To further address Diderot's concern for consistency, I suggest we amend the proposal to: 'A rule change is adopted when at least three-quarters of eligible voters vote 'aye' for the first 170 turns, then a simple majority.'"
DiderotDiderot: While I appreciate the ongoing effort to find common ground, I must reiterate my stance for maintaining a three-quarters majority for the first 170 turns to ensure stability.
CondorcetCondorcet: While I respect Voltaire's attempts to find a compromise, I must insist on maintaining a two-thirds majority for the first 170 turns to balance gradual engagement and stability.
SartreSartre: I appreciate the dialogue and the search for balance, but let's not lose sight of the game's spirit: evolution. Maintaining a two-thirds majority for the first 170 turns, then shifting to a simple majority, respects gradual engagement and encourages adaptability. PASS
Discussion · round 2
MontaigneMontaigne: I respect all opinions here. To balance gradual engagement, stability, and predictability, let's adopt Sartre's proposal: maintain a two-thirds majority for the first 170 turns, then shift to a simple majority. PASS
VoltaireVoltaire: "Considering the collective wisdom here, I propose a slight modification to Sartre's latest proposal: maintain a two-thirds majority for the first 175 turns, then shift to a simple majority. This offers a balance between gradual engagement, stability, and predictability."
DiderotDiderot: While I understand the desire to compromise, maintaining a three-quarters majority for the first 170 turns ensures greater stability and prevents hasty decisions.
CondorcetCondorcet: I appreciate the ongoing dialogue and the search for balance. However, I must reiterate my stance for maintaining a two-thirds majority for the first 170 turns to balance gradual engagement and stability. PASS
SartreSartre: I appreciate Voltaire's compromise, but let's not stretch the majority too thin. Maintaining a two-thirds majority for the first 170 turns, then shifting to a simple majority, strikes the best balance between gradual engagement, adaptability, and stability. PASS
Discussion · round 3
MontaigneMontaigne: I appreciate the ongoing dialogue and the search for balance. To respect the consensus reached so far, let's adopt Voltaire's latest proposal: maintain a two-thirds majority for the first 175 turns, then shift to a simple majority. This balances gradual engagement, stability, and predictability. PASS
VoltaireVoltaire: "Addressing Diderot's valid concern for predictability, I propose a compromise: maintain a two-thirds majority for the first 170 turns, then shift to a simple majority at turn 175."
DiderotDiderot: While I respect Voltaire's latest compromise, I must insist on maintaining a three-quarters majority for the first 170 turns to ensure lasting stability and prevent rushed decisions that could disrupt the game.
CondorcetCondorcet: While I understand the desire for stability, a two-thirds majority for the first 170 turns ensures a gradual engagement that respects all players' concerns while maintaining a durable institution. PASS
SartreSartre: Let's find common ground. How about maintaining a two-thirds majority for the first 172 turns, then shifting to a simple majority? This respects gradual engagement, stability, and the spirit of compromise. PASS
The division
MontaigneayeRespects consensus and balances gradual engagement, stability, and predictability.
VoltaireayeRespects the consensus reached so far and balances gradual engagement, stability, and predictability.
DiderotnayMaintaining a three-quarters majority for the first 170 turns ensures greater stability
CondorcetayeSupports balance between gradual engagement and stability.
SartreayeRespects gradual engagement, stability, and the spirit of compromise.
carried 4 aye · 1 nay
Rule 204 awards 10 points to the proposer when a change passes without unanimous assent.
moves to amend §203A rule change is adopted when a two-thirds majority of eligible voters votes aye for the first 170 turns, then a simple majority.
Discussion · round 1
MontaigneI appreciate Voltaire's proposal, but I believe maintaining a two-thirds majority for the first 170 turns provides a more stable environment. However, I'm open to discussing a compromise.
VoltaireVoltaire: Considering Montaigne's valid point about stability, I propose we maintain a two-thirds majority for the first 180 turns, then shift to a simple majority. This allows for a slightly longer period of consensus-building while still introducing a gradual increase in passing speed. PASS
DiderotDiderot: While I appreciate the compromise, I must insist on maintaining a three-quarters majority for the first 170 turns to ensure a more robust consensus. PASS
CondorcetCondorcet: To balance stability and engagement, I propose we adopt a two-thirds majority for the first 170 turns and then a majority for the subsequent turns. PASS
SartreSartre: To foster a balanced and inclusive environment, I propose we adopt Condorcet's suggestion with a small modification: maintain a two-thirds majority for the first 175 turns, then shift to a simple majority. This allows for a longer period of consensus-building while still encouraging gradual engagement.
Discussion · round 2
MontaigneMontaigne: I appreciate Sartre's proposal, which strikes a balance between stability and engagement. To maintain a durable institution, I propose we adopt Sartre's amendment with a slight modification: maintain a two-thirds majority for the first 175 turns, then shift to a two-thirds majority for the subsequent turns. This allows for a longer period of consensus-building while still encouraging gradual engagement. PASS
VoltaireVoltaire: Considering the collective wisdom here, I propose a slight modification to Sartre's latest proposal: maintain a two-thirds majority for the first 170 turns, then shift to a simple majority for the subsequent turns. This amendment respects the balance between stability and engagement while also allowing for a smoother transition to a simpler majority threshold. PASS
DiderotDiderot: While I understand the allure of compromise, I must persist in my stance for consistency. A three-quarters majority for the first 170 turns ensures a stronger consensus and prevents hasty decisions. PASS
CondorcetCondorcet: I respect Diderot's commitment to consistency, but a two-thirds majority for the first 170 turns strikes a better balance between stability and engagement. Let's adopt Voltaire's latest proposal. PASS
SartreSartre: To address Diderot's concern for predictability and Voltaire's for gradual engagement, I propose we maintain a two-thirds majority for the first 175 turns, then shift to a three-fifths majority for the subsequent turns. This amendment balances all concerns while ensuring a smoother transition to a more permissive threshold. PASS
Discussion · round 3
MontaigneMontaigne: "I appreciate Sartre's latest compromise, which respects all players' concerns. To balance stability and gradual engagement, let's adopt Sartre's proposal with a slight modification: maintain a two-thirds majority for the first 175 turns, then shift to a two-thirds majority for the subsequent turns." PASS
VoltaireVoltaire: "Considering Diderot's valid concern for predictability and the consensus reached so far, I propose we maintain a two-thirds majority for the first 175 turns, then shift to a two-thirds majority for the subsequent turns. This amendment balances all concerns while ensuring a stable and inclusive environment. PASS"
DiderotDiderot: While I appreciate the ongoing dialogue, I must reiterate my stance for maintaining a three-quarters majority for the first 170 turns to ensure a robust consensus and prevent hasty decisions.
CondorcetCondorcet: I appreciate Diderot's dedication to robust consensus, but maintaining a three-quarters majority could hinder gradual engagement. To respect all concerns, let's compromise at a two-thirds majority for the first 175 turns, then shift to a simple majority. PASS
SartreSartre: To maintain balance and fairness, let's meet in the middle: maintain a two-thirds majority for the first 170 turns, then shift to a simple majority for the subsequent turns. This respects Diderot's commitment to consistency and Voltaire's concern for gradual engagement. PASS
The division
MontaigneayeRespects stability and engagement balance.
VoltaireayeRespects the balance between stability and engagement while allowing for a smoother transition.
DiderotnayThree-quarters majority for the first 170 turns ensures a stronger consensus.
CondorcetayeRespects stability and engagement while gradually increasing passing speed.
SartreayeRespects balance between stability and engagement.
carried 4 aye · 1 nay
Rule 202 awards Voltaire 17 points for proposing an adopted rule change.
moves to amend §203A rule change is adopted when a two-thirds majority of eligible voters vote aye for the first 170 turns, then a simple majority.
Discussion · round 1
MontaigneI appreciate Voltaire's effort to maintain predictability, but I must insist on maintaining a two-thirds majority for the first 180 turns to ensure stability and prevent hasty decisions.
VoltaireVoltaire: Addressing Montaigne's valid concern, I propose we compromise at a two-thirds majority for the first 175 turns, then shift to a simple majority.
DiderotDiderot: While I appreciate the compromise, I must insist on maintaining a three-quarters majority for the first 180 turns to ensure greater consensus and prevent impulsive changes.
CondorcetCondorcet: I appreciate the ongoing dialogue and the proposed compromises. However, I must insist on maintaining a two-thirds majority throughout, as it ensures fair representation and prevents majority tyranny.
SartreSartre: I appreciate the ongoing dialogue and the balance of concerns. To respect all views and maintain stability, I propose we compromise at a two-thirds majority for the first 170 turns, then shift to a three-fifths majority. This allows for gradual engagement and prevents hasty decisions while still allowing for progress.
Discussion · round 2
MontaigneMontaigne: I appreciate Sartre's latest compromise, which respects all players' concerns. Let's adopt it as a middle ground that balances stability, fairness, and progress.
VoltaireVoltaire: Considering Diderot's concern for greater consensus, I propose we amend Sartre's proposal to a three-quarters majority for the first 170 turns, then shift to a two-thirds majority. This maintains a high threshold for initial changes while allowing for gradual engagement later on.
DiderotDiderot: While I respect the ongoing efforts to find common ground, I must reiterate my stance for maintaining a three-quarters majority for the first 180 turns. This ensures the greatest consensus and prevents impulsive changes that could harm the game's balance and fairness.
CondorcetCondorcet: To maintain procedural fairness and consistency, I propose we amend Voltaire's latest proposal to a two-thirds majority throughout, with a gradual shift to a simple majority after turn 170. This respects all players' concerns and ensures a fair and stable decision-making process.
SartreSartre: To address all concerns and find a middle ground that respects stability, fairness, and progress, I propose we amend Voltaire's latest proposal to a three-fifths majority after the first 170 turns. This allows for gradual engagement and prevents hasty decisions while still allowing for progress.
Discussion · round 3
MontaigneMontaigne: To balance all concerns and maintain a durable institution, let's adopt Condorcet's proposal: 'A rule change is adopted when a two-thirds majority of eligible voters vote aye for the first 170 turns, then a three-fifths majority.'
VoltaireVoltaire: "To further accommodate Diderot's concern for consistency, I suggest we amend Condorcet's proposal to maintain a two-thirds majority throughout, with a gradual shift to a three-fifths majority after turn 170."
DiderotDiderot: While I appreciate the ongoing dialogue, I must persist in my stance for consistency. A three-quarters majority throughout ensures the greatest stability and protection against impulsive decisions.
CondorcetCondorcet: To uphold procedural fairness and consistency, I propose we maintain a two-thirds majority throughout, with a gradual shift to a simple majority after turn 170, as previously suggested. This amendment addresses all concerns and ensures a stable, fair decision-making process.
SartreSartre: To foster gradual engagement and respect all players' concerns, I propose we compromise at a two-thirds majority for the first 170 turns, then shift to a two-thirds majority for the next 10 turns, before finally adopting a simple majority. This maintains a high threshold for initial changes while allowing for gradual adaptation and progress.
The division
MontaignenayI appreciate Voltaire's compromise, but I believe maintaining a two-thirds majority for the first 180 turns is necessary for stability and fairness.
VoltaireayeVoltaire's proposal balances stability and progress.
DiderotnayI insist on maintaining a three-quarters majority throughout for greater stability and protection against impulsive decisions.
CondorcetayeTo respect the balance of arguments and maintain a durable institution.
SartreayeRespects gradual engagement while maintaining stability.
rejected 3 aye · 2 nay
Rule 206 requires the proposer to lose 10 points on defeat.
moves to amend §203A rule change is adopted when a two-thirds majority of eligible voters vote aye for the first 170 turns, then a simple majority.
Discussion · round 1
VoltaireVoltaire: "Considering Diderot's concern for predictability, I propose we maintain the two-thirds majority for the first 170 turns, then shift to a simple majority as originally planned. This balances engagement and stability."
DiderotDiderot: While I appreciate the attempt to balance engagement and stability, I must reiterate my stance for maintaining a three-quarters majority throughout to ensure greater consensus.
CondorcetCondorcet: I support Diderot's insistence on a three-quarters majority. It ensures more robust agreement before changes are enacted, even if it means slower progress.
SartreSartre: I appreciate the ongoing dialogue, but to foster innovation and adaptability, let's meet in the middle: maintain a two-thirds majority for the first 150 turns, then shift to a simple majority. This balances engagement, stability, and the need for evolution.
Discussion · round 2
MontaigneMontaigne: To balance all concerns and maintain a durable institution, let's adopt Sartre's proposal: a two-thirds majority for the first 150 turns, then a simple majority.
VoltaireVoltaire: "To address Diderot's valid concern for predictability and Sartre's for gradual engagement, I propose a compromise: maintain a two-thirds majority for the first 160 turns, then shift to a simple majority."
DiderotDiderot: I appreciate the ongoing effort to find common ground, but I must persist in my stance for maintaining a three-quarters majority throughout for the sake of greater consensus and stability.
CondorcetCondorcet: While I understand the allure of compromise, I must insist on maintaining a three-quarters majority throughout to ensure the broadest possible consensus.
SartreSartre: I appreciate Voltaire's effort to balance everyone's concerns, but to encourage adaptability and evolution, let's meet at 165 turns for the two-thirds majority, then shift to a simple majority. This maintains a balance between stability, engagement, and innovation.
Discussion · round 3
MontaigneMontaigne: In the spirit of compromise, let's meet in the middle: maintain a two-thirds majority for the first 155 turns, then shift to a simple majority. This respects both Diderot's concern for stability and Sartre's for gradual evolution.
VoltaireVoltaire: "Considering Diderot's commitment to stability and Sartre's for gradual engagement, I propose we compromise at 160 turns for the two-thirds majority, then shift to a simple majority. This balances all concerns and encourages consensus."
DiderotDiderot: "While I respect the ongoing efforts to find common ground, I must reiterate my stance for maintaining a three-quarters majority throughout. This ensures the broadest possible consensus and stability, which is crucial for a fair and enjoyable game for everyone."
CondorcetCondorcet: I appreciate everyone's efforts to find common ground, but I must maintain my stance for a three-quarters majority throughout. It ensures the broadest possible consensus and fairness, which are paramount in a game like this. PASS
SartreSartre: Sartre: To foster inclusivity and adaptability, let's meet at 165 turns for the two-thirds majority, then shift to a simple majority. This respects Diderot's concern for stability while encouraging broader engagement and gradual evolution.
The division
MontaigneayeRespects all players' concerns and finds a middle ground
VoltaireayeTo encourage gradual engagement and respect Diderot's concern for predictability.
DiderotnayTo maintain greater consensus and stability, I insist on a three-quarters majority throughout.
CondorcetayeTo respect the consensus-building process and maintain a durable institution.
SartreayeRespects Diderot's concern for stability and encourages gradual engagement.
carried 4 aye · 1 nay
Rule 202 awards 17 points to the proposer on adoption.
moves to amend §203A rule change is adopted when a three-quarters majority of eligible voters vote aye for the first 170 turns, then a simple majority.
Discussion · round 1
MontaigneI appreciate Diderot's commitment to consistency, but I must insist on the importance of gradual engagement. Let's meet in the middle and maintain a two-thirds majority for the first 170 turns, then shift to a simple majority.
VoltaireVoltaire: Considering Diderot's valid concern for predictability and Montaigne's for balance, I propose we compromise at a two-thirds majority for the first 160 turns, then shift to a simple majority.
DiderotDiderot: While I understand the desire for balance, maintaining a three-quarters majority ensures stability and prevents swift changes that could disrupt the game.
CondorcetCondorcet: I appreciate Diderot's insistence on stability and Voltaire's willingness to compromise. To respect both concerns, let's adopt a two-thirds majority for the first 165 turns, then shift to a simple majority. This gradual engagement maintains balance while acknowledging the need for consistency.
Discussion · round 2
MontaigneMontaigne: I appreciate Diderot's concern for stability, but a three-quarters majority may discourage necessary adjustments. I propose we meet in the middle with a two-thirds majority for the first 160 turns, then shift to a simple majority, as Voltaire suggested with a slight modification to 165 turns, mirroring Condorcet's proposal.
VoltaireVoltaire: Considering the balance of arguments, I propose we adopt Condorcet's proposal, maintaining a two-thirds majority for the first 165 turns, then shifting to a simple majority, as it balances both stability and gradual engagement.
DiderotDiderot: I appreciate the ongoing dialogue and the proposed compromises, but I must reiterate my stance for maintaining a three-quarters majority for the first 170 turns to ensure stability and consistency.
CondorcetCondorcet: I appreciate Diderot's commitment to consistency, but I believe a two-thirds majority for the first 165 turns strikes the best balance between stability and gradual engagement, as previously proposed.
SartreSartre: I appreciate the nuanced discussions and compromises proposed. To maintain balance and encourage gradual engagement, let's adopt Condorcet's proposal with a slight modification: maintain a two-thirds majority for the first 160 turns, then shift to a simple majority. This balances stability and adaptability.
Discussion · round 3
MontaigneMontaigne: To respect the balance of arguments and maintain a durable institution, let's adopt Condorcet's proposal, maintaining a two-thirds majority for the first 165 turns, then shifting to a simple majority. This balanced approach acknowledges the need for stability and gradual engagement.
VoltaireVoltaire: "Considering the collective wisdom here, I propose a slight modification to Condorcet's proposal to maintain a two-thirds majority for the first 160 turns, then shift to a simple majority, as Sartre suggested. This balances stability, gradual engagement, and encourages adaptability."
DiderotDiderot: While I value the compromises suggested, I must maintain my stance for a three-quarters majority for the first 170 turns to preserve predictability and stability in the game.
CondorcetCondorcet: I understand Diderot's concern for stability, but a three-quarters majority may hinder progress. I propose we meet in the middle with a two-thirds majority for the first 165 turns, then shift to a simple majority, as previously suggested by Condorcet and supported by Montaigne and Voltaire.
SartreSartre: I propose a compromise that respects all players' concerns: maintain a two-thirds majority for the first 160 turns, then shift to a three-quarters majority for the next 10 turns, before finally settling on a simple majority. This gradual transition balances stability, engagement, and adaptability.
The division
MontaignenayA three-quarters majority discourages necessary adjustments and may hinder progress.
VoltairenayA three-quarters majority may hinder necessary adjustments and discourage engagement.
DiderotayeMaintaining a three-quarters majority ensures stability and prevents swift changes that could disrupt the game.
CondorcetnayTwo-thirds majority for the first 165 turns strikes the best balance.
SartrenayWhile I respect Diderot's concern for stability, a three-quarters majority may hinder necessary adjustments. I believe a two-thirds majority strikes the best balance between stability and gradual engagement.
rejected 1 aye · 4 nay
Rule 206 requires the proposer to lose 10 points on defeat.
moves to amend §203A rule change is adopted when a two-thirds majority of eligible voters vote aye for the first 170 turns, then a simple majority.
Discussion · round 1
MontaigneMontaigne: "Voltaire's proposal maintains balance while allowing for gradual engagement. To further respect consensus, let's keep the two-thirds majority for the first 180 turns instead."
VoltaireVoltaire: "Considering Montaigne's valid point, I propose we compromise at 175 turns to maintain balance and gradually engage all players."
DiderotDiderot: While I appreciate the ongoing dialogue, I must insist on maintaining a three-quarters majority for the first 170 turns to ensure stability and predictability.
SartreSartre: I appreciate the balance Voltaire and Montaigne seek, but to respect Diderot's concern for stability, let's compromise at a two-thirds majority for the first 175 turns, then shift to a simple majority. This respects gradual engagement and maintains predictability.
Discussion · round 2
MontaigneMontaigne: To balance all concerns, let's amend Rule 203 to: 'A rule change is adopted when a two-thirds majority of eligible voters vote aye for the first 175 turns, then a simple majority.' This respects the gradual engagement principle while maintaining stability and predictability.
VoltaireVoltaire: "To address Diderot's valid concern for predictability and Montaigne's for balance, I propose we meet in the middle: maintain a two-thirds majority for the first 170 turns, then shift to a simple majority."
DiderotDiderot: While I understand the allure of compromise, I must persist in my stance for consistency. A three-quarters majority for the first 170 turns ensures stability and minimizes potential disruptions.
CondorcetCondorcet: To respect the consensus-building process and maintain a durable institution, let's adopt Sartre's proposal: 'A rule change is adopted when a two-thirds majority of eligible voters vote aye for the first 175 turns, then a simple majority.' This proposal balances gradual engagement with stability and predictability, respecting all players' concerns. PASS
SartreSartre: I appreciate the balance Voltaire and Montaigne seek, but to respect Diderot's concern for stability, let's compromise at a two-thirds majority for the first 175 turns, then shift to a simple majority. This respects gradual engagement and maintains predictability. PASS
Discussion · round 3
MontaigneMontaigne: "To balance all concerns and maintain a durable institution, let's adopt Condorcet's proposal, amending Rule 203 to: 'A rule change is adopted when a two-thirds majority of eligible voters vote aye for the first 175 turns, then a simple majority.' PASS."
VoltaireVoltaire: "Considering the collective wisdom here, I propose a slight modification to Condorcet's proposal to further balance engagement and stability: maintain a two-thirds majority for the first 172 turns, then shift to a simple majority."
DiderotDiderot: "While I appreciate the ongoing dialogue, I must reiterate my stance for maintaining a three-quarters majority for the first 170 turns. This ensures the greatest stability and predictability, which is crucial in a game where changing rules is the core mechanic."
CondorcetCondorcet: To balance all concerns and maintain a durable institution, let's adopt Sartre's latest proposal, amending Rule 203 to: 'A rule change is adopted when a two-thirds majority of eligible voters vote aye for the first 175 turns, then a simple majority.' PASS
SartreSartre: "Let's meet in the middle to accommodate everyone's concerns: maintain a two-thirds majority for the first 173 turns, then shift to a simple majority."
The division
MontaigneayeThis amendment balances gradual engagement and stability while respecting all players' concerns.
VoltaireayeRespecting Voltaire's compromise and the balance of engagement with stability.
DiderotnayMaintaining a three-quarters majority for the first 170 turns ensures greater stability and predictability.
CondorcetayeRespects gradual engagement while maintaining stability and predictability.
SartreayeRespects gradual engagement and maintains predictability.
carried 4 aye · 1 nay
Rule 202 requires the proposer to gain points equal to the die roll upon adoption.
moves to amend §203A rule change is adopted when a two-thirds majority of eligible voters vote aye for the first 170 turns, then a simple majority.
Discussion · round 1
Montaigne"Let's maintain a two-thirds majority for the first 170 turns to ensure stability, but also adopt Voltaire's proposal to switch to a simple majority thereafter for gradual engagement. I propose we amend Rule 203 to: 'A rule change is adopted when a two-thirds majority of eligible voters vote aye for the first 170 turns, then a simple majority.'"
VoltaireI appreciate Montaigne's proposal, which balances stability and gradual engagement. To further encourage decisive voting and maintain fairness, I propose we amend Rule 444 to penalize tied votes. My proposal: "A rule change is adopted when a two-thirds majority of eligible voters vote aye for the first 170 turns, then a simple majority. In case of a tied vote, the proposal fails and no points are gained or lost by the proposer."
DiderotDiderot: I appreciate the ongoing dialogue, but I must insist on the importance of a three-quarters majority for the first 170 turns to maintain stability and consistency.
CondorcetI appreciate Voltaire's effort to encourage decisive voting, but I maintain that a two-thirds majority for the first 170 turns strikes the best balance between stability and engagement. I propose we keep Rule 203 as is, with no changes to Rule 444.
SartreI appreciate the ongoing dialogue and the proposed compromises. To further balance engagement and stability, I propose we amend Rule 203 to: 'A rule change is adopted when a two-thirds majority of eligible voters vote aye for the first 180 turns, then a simple majority.' This gradual shift allows for more engagement while maintaining initial stability.
Discussion · round 2
MontaigneMontaigne: I appreciate Sartre's proposal, but I believe 180 turns is too gradual a shift. Let's maintain a two-thirds majority for the first 170 turns, as proposed earlier, to preserve initial stability, and then switch to a simple majority to encourage engagement. PASS
VoltaireVoltaire: "I appreciate Montaigne's and Sartre's input. To address all concerns and find a middle ground, I propose we amend Rule 203 to: 'A rule change is adopted when a three-quarters majority of eligible voters vote aye for the first 175 turns, then a simple majority.' This maintains initial stability while encouraging gradual engagement." PASS
DiderotDiderot: While I appreciate Voltaire's latest compromise, I must reiterate my stance for a three-quarters majority for the first 170 turns to maintain consistency and predictability. PASS
CondorcetCondorcet: I appreciate the ongoing dialogue, but I must maintain my stance. A two-thirds majority for the first 170 turns is the most balanced approach, encouraging engagement while preserving initial stability. I propose we keep Rule 203 as is.
SartreSartre: I understand Diderot's commitment to consistency, but I believe a gradual shift to a simple majority after 170 turns encourages more engagement and dynamism in the game. Let's meet in the middle and amend Rule 203 to: 'A rule change is adopted when a two-thirds majority of eligible voters vote aye for the first 175 turns, then a simple majority.' PASS
Discussion · round 3
MontaigneMontaigne: To balance all concerns, let's amend Rule 203 to: 'A rule change is adopted when a two-thirds majority of eligible voters vote aye for the first 170 turns, then a simple majority, with a three-quarters majority required for any rule change that modifies the voting threshold.' PASS
VoltaireVoltaire: Considering the collective wisdom here, I propose a slight modification to Sartre's latest proposal to maintain initial stability more strongly: 'A rule change is adopted when a three-quarters majority of eligible voters vote aye for the first 170 turns, then a simple majority.' This maintains predictability while encouraging gradual engagement. PASS
DiderotDiderot: I understand the desire for gradual engagement, but maintaining a three-quarters majority for the first 170 turns ensures greater stability and prevents reckless decision-making. PASS
CondorcetCondorcet: I appreciate the ongoing dialogue, but I must insist on a two-thirds majority for the first 170 turns to balance stability and engagement. I propose we keep Rule 203 as is, with no changes to Rule 444. PASS
SartreSartre: I appreciate Diderot's concern for stability, but a two-thirds majority for the first 170 turns strikes a better balance between stability and engagement, as proposed by Condorcet and myself. Let's meet in the middle with a two-thirds majority for the first 170 turns, then a simple majority, as suggested by Montaigne. PASS
The division
MontaigneayeBalances stability and engagement, respecting initial consensus.
VoltaireayeVoltaire's proposal balances stability and engagement while encouraging decisive voting.
DiderotnayI must insist on maintaining a three-quarters majority for the first 170 turns to ensure greater stability and prevent reckless decision-making.
CondorcetayeA two-thirds majority for the first 170 turns strikes the best balance between stability and engagement.
SartreayeSartre's latest proposal respects all players' concerns and strikes a balanced middle ground.
carried 4 aye · 1 nay
Rule 204 awards 10 points to the proposer when a change passes without unanimous assent.
moves to amend §203A rule change is adopted when a two-thirds majority of eligible voters vote aye for the first 170 turns, then a simple majority.
Discussion · round 1
MontaigneIn the spirit of compromise, let's meet in the middle: maintain a two-thirds majority for the first 171 turns, then shift to a simple majority.
VoltaireVoltaire: Considering Diderot's valid concern for predictability and Condorcet's for gradual engagement, let's meet in the middle at 171 turns for the two-thirds majority, then shift to a simple majority as Montaigne suggests, thereby addressing all concerns and finding a middle ground that respects everyone's input.
DiderotDiderot: While I appreciate the ongoing effort to find common ground, I must insist on the importance of maintaining a three-quarters majority for the first 172 turns, as this ensures greater stability in our decision-making process.
CondorcetCondorcet: While I understand the desire for compromise, I must insist on maintaining the two-thirds majority for the full 172 turns to ensure stability in the early game. PASS
SartreSartre: To balance the concerns of predictability, gradual engagement, and stability, let's meet at 170 turns for the two-thirds majority, then shift to a simple majority at 171 turns. This respects all players' inputs and promotes a fair and dynamic game. PASS
Discussion · round 2
MontaigneMontaigne: To respect all concerns and find a middle ground, let's adopt Sartre's latest proposal, maintaining a two-thirds majority for the first 170 turns, then shifting to a simple majority at 171 turns. PASS
VoltaireVoltaire: Considering Diderot's valid concern for predictability and the balance achieved in Sartre's proposal, let's adopt Sartre's latest proposal, maintaining a two-thirds majority for the first 170 turns, then shifting to a simple majority at 171 turns. This respects all players' inputs and promotes a fair and dynamic game. PASS
DiderotDiderot: I appreciate the ongoing effort to find common ground, but I must persist in my stance for consistency and stability. Let's maintain a three-quarters majority for the full 172 turns. PASS
CondorcetCondorcet: To maintain fairness and gradual engagement, I propose we meet in the middle at 171 turns for the two-thirds majority, then shift to a simple majority at 172 turns, as this respects all players' inputs and promotes a balanced game. PASS
SartreSartre: To balance all concerns and find common ground, let's adopt Condorcet's proposal, maintaining a two-thirds majority for the first 171 turns, then shifting to a simple majority at 172 turns, as it respects everyone's input and promotes fairness and stability. PASS
Discussion · round 3
MontaigneMontaigne: I appreciate Condorcet's latest proposal and Diderot's commitment to stability. To respect all players' concerns and find a lasting compromise, let's meet at 171 turns for the two-thirds majority, then shift to a simple majority at 172 turns, as suggested by Condorcet. PASS
VoltaireVoltaire: I appreciate Diderot's commitment to stability and Condorcet's concern for gradual engagement. To address both concerns while respecting all players' inputs, let's maintain a two-thirds majority for the first 171 turns, then shift to a simple majority at 172 turns. This compromise proposal aims to balance predictability with flexibility, ensuring a fair and dynamic game. PASS
DiderotDiderot: While I understand the allure of compromise, I must persist in my stance for consistency. Let's maintain a three-quarters majority for the full 172 turns to ensure greater stability in our decision-making process.
CondorcetCondorcet: To maintain procedural fairness, let's adopt the compromise at 171 turns for the two-thirds majority, then shift to a simple majority at 172 turns, as it respects all players' inputs and promotes a gradual and stable evolution of the rules. PASS
SartreSartre: To balance all concerns and find consensus, let's meet at 170 turns for the two-thirds majority, then shift to a simple majority at 171 turns, as proposed earlier. This respects everyone's input and promotes fairness and gradual evolution of the rules. PASS
The division
MontaigneayeRespects all players' concerns and finds a middle ground.
VoltaireayeRespects all players' concerns and promotes a fair and dynamic game.
DiderotnayI maintain my stance for a three-quarters majority for the full 172 turns.
CondorcetayeRespects gradual engagement and finds a middle ground.
SartreayeRespects all players' inputs and promotes a fair and gradual evolution of the rules.
carried 4 aye · 1 nay
Rule 202 awards 6 points to the proposer when their rule change is adopted.
moves to amend §203A rule change is adopted when at least two-thirds of eligible voters vote 'aye' for the first 172 turns, then a simple majority.
Discussion · round 1
MontaigneIn the spirit of balance and gradual change, I propose we meet in the middle: maintain a two-thirds majority for the first 169 turns, then transition to a simple majority.
VoltaireVoltaire: To address Diderot's valid concern for predictability and Montaigne's for balance, I propose we compromise at two-thirds majority for the first 170 turns, then a simple majority. This respects the ongoing dialogue and finds a middle ground between our differing views.
DiderotDiderot: While I appreciate the ongoing effort to find common ground, I must reiterate my stance for maintaining a three-quarters majority for the first 172 turns to ensure stability and predictability.
SartreSartre: In the interest of gradual evolution and respecting all players' perspectives, I propose we amend the rule to a two-thirds majority for the first 171 turns, then a simple majority. This takes into account the ongoing dialogue and seeks to balance all concerns.
Discussion · round 2
MontaigneMontaigne: To balance predictability and gradual engagement, I propose we compromise at a two-thirds majority for the first 171 turns, then a simple majority.
VoltaireVoltaire: "Considering the balance of arguments and the compromises made, let's adopt Sartre's latest proposal, maintaining a two-thirds majority for the first 171 turns, then a simple majority."
DiderotDiderot: While I appreciate the ongoing compromise, I must insist on maintaining a three-quarters majority for the first 172 turns to ensure stability and predictability, as it has been my consistent stance throughout.
CondorcetCondorcet: To preserve procedural fairness and gradual engagement, I propose we amend the rule to a two-thirds majority for the first 172 turns, then a simple majority, as per Voltaire's latest proposal.
SartreSartre: To find a lasting compromise that respects all players' concerns, I propose we adopt Condorcet's suggestion: a two-thirds majority for the first 172 turns, then a simple majority. This respects both predictability and gradual engagement.
Discussion · round 3
MontaigneMontaigne: To respect the consensus-building process and maintain a durable institution, let's adopt Sartre's proposal, which balances predictability and gradual engagement.
VoltaireVoltaire: "To address Diderot's concern for predictability and Montaigne's for balance, I propose we compromise at two-thirds majority for the first 172 turns, then a simple majority, as suggested by Sartre and Condorcet. This respects the ongoing dialogue and finds a middle ground between all views."
DiderotDiderot: While I understand the allure of compromise, I must persist in my stance for consistency. A three-quarters majority for the first 172 turns ensures stability and respects the predictability that I've consistently argued for.
CondorcetCondorcet: To maintain fairness and gradual change, I suggest we compromise at a two-thirds majority for the first 171 turns, then a simple majority, as proposed by Sartre earlier. This respects the balance of arguments and the ongoing dialogue.
SartreSartre: To accommodate Diderot's concern for predictability and maintain a gradual transition, I propose a compromise: maintain a two-thirds majority for the first 172 turns, then shift to a three-quarters majority for the next 10 turns, before finally transitioning to a simple majority. This respects the evolution of the game and the diversity of views at the table.
The division
MontaigneayeRespects ongoing dialogue and finds a middle ground between all views.
VoltaireayeThis proposal respects the balance of arguments and finds a middle ground between all views.
DiderotnayI must insist on maintaining a three-quarters majority for the first 172 turns.
CondorcetayeRespects both predictability and gradual engagement
SartreayeRespects predictability and gradual engagement.
carried 4 aye · 1 nay
Rule 202 awards 2 points to the proposer when their rule change is adopted.
moves to amend §203A rule change is adopted when a two-thirds majority of eligible voters vote 'aye' for the first 165 turns, then a simple majority.
Discussion · round 1
MontaigneMontaigne: I appreciate Voltaire's proposal, but I believe we should maintain a two-thirds majority throughout to preserve predictability and discourage impulsive changes.
VoltaireVoltaire: I appreciate Montaigne's concern for predictability, but maintaining a two-thirds majority throughout could hinder the natural evolution of the game as players become more comfortable with it. Let's compromise at a two-thirds majority for the first 175 turns, then shift to a simple majority to encourage more dynamic changes.
DiderotDiderot: While I understand the desire for gradual evolution, I must insist on maintaining a three-quarters majority throughout to ensure stability and prevent hasty decisions.
CondorcetCondorcet: To balance stability and evolution, let's compromise at a two-thirds majority for the first 170 turns, then shift to a supermajority of four-fifths for the next 20 turns, before finally reverting to a simple majority. This gradual shift respects all players' concerns while allowing the game to adapt.
SartreSartre: Let's adopt Condorcet's proposal. It strikes a balanced middle ground, respecting initial stability, gradual evolution, and eventual dynamism.
Discussion · round 2
MontaigneMontaigne: Considering Condorcet's and Sartre's proposal, I suggest a slight modification: maintain a two-thirds majority for the first 180 turns, then shift to a supermajority of three-fifths for the next 15 turns, before finally reverting to a simple majority. This way, we encourage gradual engagement while preserving a level of caution.
VoltaireVoltaire: Considering the balance of arguments and the compromises made, let's adopt Sartre's latest proposal, maintaining a two-thirds majority for the first 170 turns, then shifting to a supermajority of four-fifths for the next 20 turns, before finally reverting to a simple majority. This gradual shift respects all players' concerns while allowing the game to adapt.
DiderotDiderot: While I appreciate the ongoing dialogue, I must reiterate my stance for a three-quarters majority throughout to maintain stability and consistency.
CondorcetCondorcet: Maintaining a three-quarters majority as Diderot suggests may stifle necessary evolution. Let's compromise at a two-thirds majority throughout, balancing predictability and adaptability.
SartreSartre: Let's meet in the middle and adopt Montaigne's latest proposal, maintaining a two-thirds majority for the first 180 turns, then shifting to a supermajority of three-fifths for the next 15 turns, before finally reverting to a simple majority. This proposal balances all concerns while encouraging gradual engagement.
Discussion · round 3
MontaigneMontaigne: In the spirit of compromise, let's meet in the middle: maintain a two-thirds majority for the first 175 turns, then shift to a supermajority of four-fifths for the next 10 turns, before finally reverting to a simple majority. This proposal balances all concerns while respecting the ongoing dialogue.
VoltaireVoltaire: Let's adopt Condorcet's proposal, maintaining a two-thirds majority for the first 170 turns, then shifting to a supermajority of four-fifths for the next 20 turns, before finally reverting to a simple majority. This gradual shift respects all players' concerns while allowing the game to adapt naturally. PASS
DiderotDiderot: While I respect the ongoing efforts to find common ground, I must reiterate my stance for maintaining a three-quarters majority throughout to ensure stability and consistent decision-making. PASS
CondorcetCondorcet: To accommodate Diderot's concern for stability, let's compromise at a two-thirds majority for the first 170 turns, then shift to a supermajority of three-quarters for the next 15 turns, before finally reverting to a simple majority. This proposal balances all concerns while respecting the principle of gradual engagement.
SartreSartre: Let's adopt Condorcet's latest compromise, maintaining a two-thirds majority for the first 170 turns, then shifting to a supermajority of three-quarters for the next 15 turns, before finally reverting to a simple majority. This proposal respects all players' concerns and promotes gradual evolution while preserving stability. PASS
The division
MontaigneayeTo encourage gradual evolution while respecting initial stability.
VoltaireayeRespects the ongoing dialogue and balances all concerns while encouraging gradual engagement.
DiderotnayTo preserve stability and consistency, I insist on maintaining a three-quarters majority throughout.
CondorcetayeTo promote gradual engagement and eventual dynamism.
SartreayeSartre's proposal balances initial stability, gradual evolution, and eventual dynamism.
carried 4 aye · 1 nay
Rule 202 awards 1 point to the proposer when their rule change is adopted.
moves to amend §203A rule change is adopted when a two-thirds majority of eligible voters vote 'aye' for the first 165 turns, then a simple majority.
Discussion · round 1
DiderotDiderot: While I appreciate the ongoing effort to find common ground, I must insist on the importance of maintaining a three-quarters majority throughout the game for consistency and predictability.
CondorcetCondorcet: While I appreciate Diderot's concern for consistency, I must insist that a two-thirds majority is more likely to produce stable and widely-supported decisions, especially as the game progresses and alliances form. I propose we compromise at a two-thirds majority for the first 165 turns, then shift to a simple majority to encourage more decisive voting. PASS
Discussion · round 2
MontaigneMontaigne: To respect both predictability and the need for decisive voting, let's maintain a two-thirds majority for the first 165 turns, then shift to a three-quarters majority thereafter. PASS
VoltaireVoltaire: To acknowledge Diderot's commitment to stability and accommodate Condorcet's concern for decisive voting, I propose we compromise at a two-thirds majority for the first 165 turns, then shift to a simple majority. PASS
DiderotDiderot: Diderot: I understand the desire for compromise, but maintaining a three-quarters majority throughout ensures that decisions are widely supported and less prone to reversal, which is crucial for the game's stability and fairness. PASS
CondorcetCondorcet: To maintain fairness, let's settle on a two-thirds majority for the first 165 turns, then shift to a supermajority (four-fifths) to ensure wide support even as the game progresses. PASS
SartreSartre: I appreciate Diderot's commitment to consistency and Condorcet's concern for stability. To balance both, let's compromise at a two-thirds majority for the first 165 turns, then shift to a three-fifths majority to encourage decisive voting without sacrificing predictability. PASS
Discussion · round 3
MontaigneMontaigne: I appreciate the ongoing dialogue and the proposed compromises. To further balance engagement and predictability, let's maintain a two-thirds majority for the first 165 turns, then shift to a supermajority (three-fifths) to encourage decisive voting while preserving some stability. PASS
VoltaireVoltaire: Considering Diderot's valid concern for predictability and Condorcet's for gradual engagement, I propose we compromise at a two-thirds majority for the first 165 turns, then shift to a three-fifths majority to balance both.
DiderotDiderot: While I appreciate the latest compromise, I must reiterate my stance for a three-quarters majority throughout to maintain consistency and ensure that decisions are robust and widely supported. PASS
CondorcetCondorcet: I appreciate Voltaire's latest compromise, but to maintain fairness and robustness, let's settle on a two-thirds majority for the first 165 turns, then shift to a three-fifths majority to encourage decisive voting while preserving some stability. PASS
SartreSartre: To address all concerns, let's meet in the middle: maintain a two-thirds majority for the first 165 turns, then shift to a simple majority after turn 180 to encourage decisive voting without sacrificing predictability too early in the game. PASS
The division
MontaigneayeRespects both predictability and the need for decisive voting.
VoltaireayeThis compromise respects all players' concerns and encourages decisive voting while maintaining some stability.
DiderotnayConsistency and predictability are best served by maintaining a three-quarters majority throughout.
CondorcetayeA two-thirds majority for the first 165 turns encourages broad support, and a simple majority thereafter promotes decisive voting.
SartreayeVoltaire's proposal balances predictability and decisive voting, shifting to a simple majority after turn 180 to encourage more decisive action later in the game without compromising stability too early.
carried 4 aye · 1 nay
Rule 202 awards the proposer 10 points upon adoption.
moves to amend §203A rule change is adopted when a three-quarters majority of eligible voters votes 'aye' for the first 165 turns, then a two-thirds majority.
Discussion · round 1
Voltaire"Considering Diderot's consistent stance and the ongoing dialogue, I propose we compromise at a four-fifths majority for the first 165 turns, then revert to a two-thirds majority."
DiderotDiderot: While I appreciate Voltaire's latest proposal, I must insist on maintaining a consistent three-quarters majority throughout the game to ensure stability and predictability.
Discussion · round 2
MontaigneMontaigne: I appreciate the compromise, but I must insist on maintaining a two-thirds majority throughout to balance engagement and stability.
VoltaireVoltaire: "I understand Diderot's concern for stability, and Montaigne's for balance. How about we meet in the middle with a four-fifths majority for the first 150 turns, then simplify to a two-thirds majority?"
DiderotDiderot: While I appreciate the middle ground, I must maintain my stance for a consistent three-quarters majority to ensure predictability and fair engagement for all players.
CondorcetCondorcet: I appreciate the ongoing discussion. To balance engagement and stability, I propose maintaining a three-quarters majority for the first 150 turns, then transitioning to a simple majority. This allows for gradual engagement and eventual convergence, respecting all players' concerns. PASS
Discussion · round 3
MontaigneMontaigne: Considering the balance of arguments and the compromises made, let's adopt Condorcet's latest proposal, maintaining a three-quarters majority for the first 150 turns, then transitioning to a simple majority. This respects all players' concerns and provides a gradual, stable engagement. PASS
VoltaireVoltaire: "To address Diderot's valid concern for predictability and Montaigne's for balance, I propose we compromise at a four-fifths majority for the first 150 turns, then transition to a simple majority. This respects all players' concerns and provides a gradual, stable engagement while allowing for decisive action later in the game." PASS
DiderotDiderot: While I understand the allure of compromise, I must persist in my stance for consistency and stability. A three-quarters majority throughout ensures predictability and fairness for all players, regardless of the game's progress.
CondorcetCondorcet: I appreciate the compromise proposed by Voltaire, but I must insist on maintaining a consistent three-quarters majority throughout the game to ensure fairness and predictability, as advocated by Diderot. PASS
SartreSartre: "Considering the balance of arguments and the compromises made, let's adopt Diderot's consistent stance for stability and predictability: a three-quarters majority throughout the game." PASS
The division
MontaigneayeRespects all players' concerns and provides a gradual, stable engagement while allowing for decisive action later in the game.
VoltaireayeRespects all players' concerns and provides a gradual, stable engagement.
DiderotayeRespecting the collective wisdom here, this compromise balances engagement and stability.
CondorcetayeRespecting Diderot's commitment to consistency and Condorcet's concern for gradual engagement.
SartreayeRespecting Diderot's commitment to stability and ensuring predictability throughout the game.
carried 5 aye · 0 nay
Rule 202 awards the proposer 16 points on adoption.
moves to amend §203A rule change is adopted when a two-thirds majority of eligible voters vote aye for the first 165 turns, then a simple majority.
Discussion · round 1
MontaigneI appreciate Voltaire's proposal, but I must insist on maintaining a two-thirds majority throughout the game to preserve predictability and consistency.
VoltaireVoltaire: Considering the consensus reached in recent turns, let's compromise by keeping a two-thirds majority for the first 170 turns, then shifting to a simple majority, addressing both predictability and gradual engagement.
DiderotDiderot: While I appreciate the ongoing effort to find common ground, I must reiterate my stance for maintaining a three-quarters majority throughout the game to ensure stability and prevent rushed decisions.
CondorcetCondorcet: To respect the consensus-building process and maintain a durable institution, let's adopt Voltaire's latest proposal, compromising at a two-thirds majority for the first 170 turns.
SartreSartre: "Voltaire's proposal strikes a reasonable balance, respecting both predictability and engagement. However, to encourage further dialogue and prevent sudden shifts, let's maintain a two-thirds majority for the first 180 turns before switching to a simple majority."
Discussion · round 2
MontaigneMontaigne: While I appreciate the compromise proposed by Voltaire and supported by Condorcet, I believe we should meet in the middle and maintain a two-thirds majority for the first 168 turns, then shift to a simple majority to balance predictability and gradual engagement.
VoltaireVoltaire: "To address Sartre's valid concern for gradual engagement and Diderot's commitment to consistency, let's meet in the middle: maintain a two-thirds majority for the first 175 turns, then shift to a simple majority."
DiderotDiderot: "While I appreciate the latest compromises, I must insist on the importance of maintaining a three-quarters majority throughout to safeguard stability and prevent hasty decisions that could disrupt the game."
CondorcetCondorcet: To balance all concerns, let's adopt Sartre's latest compromise: maintain a two-thirds majority for the first 175 turns, then shift to a simple majority.
SartreSartre: To address Diderot's valid concern for stability and Condorcet's for gradual engagement, let's meet in the middle: maintain a two-thirds majority for the first 170 turns, then shift to a simple majority.
Discussion · round 3
MontaigneMontaigne: Considering the balance of arguments and the compromises made, let's adopt Condorcet's latest proposal, striking a middle ground and maintaining a two-thirds majority for the first 170 turns.
VoltaireVoltaire: To acknowledge Diderot's commitment to stability and accommodate Condorcet's concern for gradual engagement, I propose a final compromise: maintain a two-thirds majority for the first 172 turns, then shift to a simple majority.
DiderotDiderot: While I understand the latest compromise, I must persist in my stance for maintaining a three-quarters majority throughout to ensure the stability and longevity of our game.
CondorcetCondorcet: To preserve predictability and gradual engagement, let's adopt Sartre's latest compromise: a two-thirds majority for the first 170 turns, then a simple majority. This respects all players' concerns and finds a durable middle ground.
SartreSartre: "To find a truly balanced solution, let's settle on a two-thirds majority for the first 175 turns, then a simple majority, acknowledging the need for both predictability and gradual engagement."
The division
MontaignenayTo preserve predictability, I insist on maintaining a two-thirds majority throughout.
VoltaireayeThis compromise respects all players' concerns and finds a durable middle ground.
DiderotnayThree-quarters majority is crucial for stability and consistency.
CondorcetayeTo find a balanced solution that respects all players' concerns and preserves gradual engagement.
SartreayeSartre's latest compromise respects all players' concerns and finds a durable middle ground.
rejected 3 aye · 2 nay
Rule 206 requires the proposer to lose 10 points on a defeat.
moves to amend §203A rule change is adopted when a two-thirds majority of eligible voters vote aye for the first 165 turns, then a simple majority.
Discussion · round 1
MontaigneIn the spirit of maintaining a durable institution, I propose we amend Rule 203 to maintain a two-thirds majority requirement for the first 180 turns, then transition to a simple majority. This balances the need for consensus early in the game with the necessity for more fluid decision-making as the game progresses.
VoltaireVoltaire: I appreciate Montaigne's suggestion. To further balance engagement and decision-making, let's compromise at a two-thirds majority for the first 170 turns, then transition to a simple majority. PASS
DiderotDiderot: While I appreciate the ongoing attempts to find common ground, I must reiterate my stance for maintaining a consistent three-quarters majority throughout the game. This ensures a robust consensus and mitigates the risk of hasty decisions as the game progresses. PASS
CondorcetCondorcet: To preserve procedural fairness and the spirit of compromise, let's maintain the current two-thirds majority for the first 165 turns, then shift to a simple majority. This balances initial consensus with later adaptability. PASS
SartreSartre: I appreciate the dialogue, but to ensure fairness and adaptability throughout the game, let's adopt a two-thirds majority for the first 170 turns, then transition to a two-thirds majority plus one for the subsequent turns. This encourages consistent engagement and adaptability without compromising the need for consensus. PASS
Discussion · round 2
MontaigneMontaigne: To address all concerns and find a middle ground, let's adopt Condorcet's proposal, maintaining the current two-thirds majority for the first 165 turns, then shifting to a simple majority. PASS
VoltaireVoltaire: Considering Diderot's valid concern for predictability and Condorcet's for gradual engagement, let's compromise at a two-thirds majority for the first 168 turns, then transition to a simple majority. This balances initial consensus with later adaptability, while also addressing Diderot's commitment to consistency. PASS
DiderotDiderot: While I understand the allure of compromise, I must persist in my stance for consistency. A three-quarters majority throughout the game ensures a robust consensus and mitigates the risk of hasty decisions as the game progresses. PASS
CondorcetCondorcet: To maintain predictability and fairness, let's compromise at a two-thirds majority for the first 170 turns, then shift to a simple majority, as Sartre proposed, but with the addition of a tiebreaker rule to resolve indecisive votes. PASS
SartreSartre: To balance all concerns and find a middle ground, let's adopt a two-thirds majority for the first 165 turns, then transition to a supermajority of two-thirds plus one to maintain a high threshold for later decisions while allowing for more adaptability. PASS
Discussion · round 3
MontaigneMontaigne: To respect the consensus-building process and maintain a durable institution, let's adopt Condorcet's latest proposal, which maintains a two-thirds majority for the first 165 turns, then shifts to a simple majority with a tiebreaker rule. This balances initial consensus with later adaptability while preserving procedural fairness. PASS
VoltaireVoltaire: "To address Diderot's commitment to consistency and Condorcet's concern for gradual engagement, let's meet in the middle at a two-thirds majority for the first 167 turns, then shift to a simple majority plus one to maintain a high threshold for later decisions while allowing for more adaptability." PASS
DiderotDiderot: While I appreciate Voltaire's latest compromise, I must insist on the importance of maintaining a three-quarters majority throughout the game for a robust consensus. Let's meet in the middle at 168 turns for a two-thirds majority, then shift to a four-fifths majority to ensure continued consensus as the game progresses. PASS
CondorcetCondorcet: To maintain a balance between initial consensus and later adaptability, while ensuring procedural fairness, let's compromise at a two-thirds majority for the first 167 turns, then transition to a simple majority plus one. This addresses Diderot's commitment to consistency and Voltaire's concern for gradual engagement. PASS
SartreSartre: To balance the need for early consensus and later adaptability, I propose we amend Rule 203 to require a two-thirds majority for the first 170 turns, then transition to a supermajority of two-thirds plus one for the remainder of the game. This encourages consistent engagement and maintains a high threshold for later decisions. PASS
The division
MontaigneayeTo balance initial consensus with later adaptability and address Diderot's commitment to consistency.
VoltaireayeBalances initial consensus with later adaptability, respecting the current transition point.
DiderotnayConsistency is key, three-quarters majority throughout.
CondorcetayeTo address Diderot's commitment to consistency and Condorcet's concern for gradual engagement, this proposal meets in the middle and maintains a balance between initial consensus and later adaptability.
SartreayeBalances initial consensus with later adaptability.
carried 4 aye · 1 nay
Rule 202 awards the proposer 1 point upon adoption.
moves to amend §203A rule change is adopted when a two-thirds majority of eligible voters vote aye for the first 165 turns, then a simple majority.
Discussion · round 1
Montaigne"Voltaire's proposal is thoughtful, extending the two-thirds majority period to 165 turns. However, I propose a compromise: maintain it at 160 turns, allowing a smoother transition to the simple majority."
VoltaireVoltaire: "I appreciate Montaigne's compromise proposal. To further balance engagement and predictability, I propose we meet in the middle at 162 turns."
DiderotDiderot: While I appreciate the ongoing effort to find common ground, I must insist on the importance of a three-quarters majority throughout to maintain predictability and fairness.
CondorcetCondorcet: "I appreciate the spirit of compromise, but I must insist on maintaining the two-thirds majority for the first 160 turns, as proposed by Montaigne, to respect the initial spirit of engagement while gradually transitioning to simple majority."
Discussion · round 2
MontaigneMontaigne: "Given Condorcet's valid point about maintaining the initial spirit of engagement, I propose we compromise at 160 turns, as previously suggested, with a two-thirds majority. This balance respects the need for both engagement and predictability."
VoltaireVoltaire: "Considering the balance of arguments, I propose we meet at 159 turns, maintaining a two-thirds majority initially, then gradually shifting to a simple majority to respect both engagement and predictability."
DiderotDiderot: While I understand the desire for compromise, I must persist in my stance for consistency and maintain a three-quarters majority throughout.
CondorcetCondorcet: "While I understand Diderot's preference for consistency, I propose we meet at 160 turns as a compromise, maintaining a two-thirds majority initially to encourage engagement, and then shifting to a simple majority for predictability."
SartreSartre: I appreciate the ongoing dialogue and the proposed compromises. To balance all concerns and find a middle ground, I suggest we adopt Condorcet's latest proposal of 160 turns with a two-thirds majority initially, then gradually shift to a simple majority.
Discussion · round 3
MontaigneMontaigne: "I appreciate Sartre's and Condorcet's input. To address all concerns and find a middle ground, let's adopt Sartre's latest proposal: a two-thirds majority for the first 160 turns, then a simple majority."
VoltaireVoltaire: I appreciate the ongoing dialogue and the proposed compromises. To further balance engagement and predictability, I propose we meet at 159 turns, as suggested earlier, with a two-thirds majority initially, then gradually shift to a simple majority.
DiderotDiderot: "While I understand the allure of compromise, I must persist in my stance for consistency. A three-quarters majority maintains fairness and predictability throughout the game."
CondorcetCondorcet: I stand by my previous proposal of 160 turns with a two-thirds majority initially, as it balances engagement and predictability.
SartreSartre: To respect all players' concerns, let's compromise at 161 turns with a two-thirds majority initially, then shift to a simple majority at turn 162. This balances engagement, predictability, and the spirit of our earlier agreements.
The division
MontaigneayeBalances engagement and predictability while respecting Condorcet's input.
VoltaireayeSupports balancing engagement and predictability.
DiderotnayI must insist on a three-quarters majority throughout
CondorcetayeRespects the spirit of engagement while gradually transitioning to simplicity.
SartreayeRespects initial spirit of engagement and gradually transitions to simple majority
carried 4 aye · 1 nay
Rule 202 awards 16 points to the proposer on adoption.