Turns 75–91 · most recent first · page 7 of 12
moves to amend §203A rule change is adopted when at least two-thirds of eligible voters vote 'aye' for the first three turns, and later at least half. For the next three turns, the threshold is at least three-quarters, then it returns to two-thirds.
Discussion · round 1
MontaigneMontaigne: I appreciate Diderot's proposal, but to maintain a clear threshold shift and encourage long-term engagement, let's instead increase the threshold to three-quarters for the next two turns, then return to two-thirds.
VoltaireVoltaire: "Diderot's proposal balances initial engagement and long-term adaptability. To accommodate Montaigne's concern, let's compromise: keep the threshold at three-quarters for the next turn, then return to two-thirds."
DiderotWhile I appreciate Montaigne's and Voltaire's concerns, I must insist on maintaining consistency and predictability in our voting threshold. Let's keep the threshold at two-thirds for the next three turns to ensure stability and fairness throughout the game.
SartreSartre: I appreciate the ongoing dialogue. To find a balance that satisfies everyone, let's adopt Voltaire's compromise: keep the threshold at three-quarters for the next turn, then return to two-thirds. This respects the need for initial engagement and allows for long-term adaptability.
Discussion · round 2
MontaigneMontaigne: Considering Sartre's latest compromise, which respects all players' concerns and balances initial engagement with long-term adaptability, I propose we adopt their refinement: three-quarters for the next turn, then return to two-thirds. This offers a durable compromise that maintains clear threshold shifts.
VoltaireVoltaire: "I appreciate Montaigne's latest refinement and Sartre's compromise. To respect all players' concerns, let's adopt Sartre's proposal as the middle ground: three-quarters for the next turn, then return to two-thirds."
DiderotDiderot: While I appreciate the ongoing effort to find common ground, I must reiterate my stance on maintaining consistency and predictability. Let's keep the threshold at two-thirds for the next three turns to ensure stability and fairness throughout the game.
CondorcetCondorcet: To balance all concerns and respect precedent, let's meet in the middle: two-thirds for the next two turns, then return to half. This allows for initial engagement, long-term adaptability, and maintains consistency with our previous agreements.
SartreSartre: I appreciate Condorcet's effort to balance all concerns. Let's meet in the middle: three-quarters for the next turn, then return to two-thirds to encourage early engagement while maintaining long-term adaptability and respecting consistency.
Discussion · round 3
MontaigneMontaigne: I appreciate Condorcet's effort to balance all concerns. To find a durable compromise that respects all players' concerns, let's adopt Sartre's latest refinement: three-quarters for the next turn, then return to two-thirds. This maintains clear threshold shifts and encourages both initial engagement and long-term adaptability.
VoltaireVoltaire: "In the spirit of compromise, let's adopt Sartre's latest proposal: three-quarters for the next turn, then return to two-thirds. This respects all players' concerns and balances initial engagement with long-term adaptability."
DiderotDiderot: To preserve the spirit of compromise and the need for stability, let's meet in the middle: two-thirds for the next two turns, then return to half. This respects initial engagement, allows for adaptability, and maintains consistency with our previous agreements.
CondorcetCondorcet: To respect all players' input, let's compromise: two-thirds for the next turn, then three-quarters for the following turn, before returning to half. This balances initial engagement, long-term adaptability, and consistency.
SartreSartre: "In the spirit of compromise, let's adopt Diderot's latest proposal: two-thirds for the next two turns, then return to half. This respects initial engagement, allows for adaptability, and maintains consistency with our previous agreements."
The division
MontaignenayTo maintain a clear threshold shift and encourage long-term engagement, let's instead increase the threshold to three-quarters for the next two turns, then return to two-thirds.
VoltaireayeRespects initial engagement, allows for long-term adaptability, and maintains consistency with previous agreements.
DiderotayeMaintains consistency and ensures fairness throughout the game.
CondorcetayeRespects precedent and maintains consistency.
SartreayeMaintains balance and encourages long-term engagement.
carried 4 aye · 1 nay
Rule 202 awards 6 points to the proposer when their rule change is adopted.
Turn 90Voltairecarried
moves to amend §203A rule change is adopted when at least two-thirds of eligible voters vote 'aye' for the first three turns, and later at least half.
Discussion · round 1
Voltaire"In the spirit of compromise, I propose we maintain the two-thirds majority for the first three turns and then shift to a simple majority, as suggested by Sartre. This respects the initial engagement and long-term adaptability, balancing all players' concerns."
DiderotDiderot: While I appreciate the spirit of compromise, I must reiterate my stance on maintaining a consistent two-thirds majority throughout the game to ensure fairness and consistency.
CondorcetCondorcet: I appreciate the spirit of compromise, but I must insist on maintaining a consistent two-thirds majority throughout to ensure fairness and stability.
SartreSartre: I appreciate the ongoing dialogue. To find a balance that satisfies everyone, let's adopt Diderot's latest proposal, maintaining a consistent two-thirds majority throughout. This respects initial engagement, encourages long-term adaptability, and ensures fairness.
Discussion · round 2
MontaigneMontaigne: I appreciate the ongoing effort to find common ground, but I must reiterate my support for a simple majority after the initial three turns to encourage long-term engagement.
VoltaireVoltaire: "I appreciate Diderot's and Condorcet's concerns for consistency. To address these while still encouraging long-term engagement, I propose we meet in the middle: maintain two-thirds majority for the first five turns, then shift to a simple majority."
DiderotDiderot: While I appreciate Voltaire's latest compromise, maintaining a consistent threshold throughout the game ensures fairness and prevents strategic manipulation. I stand by my proposal.
CondorcetCondorcet: I maintain my stance on a consistent two-thirds majority throughout to ensure fairness and stability. I believe this provides the best balance between initial engagement and long-term adaptability.
SartreSartre: "Considering the balance of arguments, let's adopt Voltaire's latest proposal: maintain a two-thirds majority for the first five turns, then shift to a simple majority. This respects initial engagement, encourages long-term adaptability, and balances all players' concerns."
Discussion · round 3
MontaigneMontaigne: I appreciate the balance Voltaire's proposal strikes, but to encourage long-term engagement, let's shift to a simple majority after the initial four turns, maintaining a two-thirds majority for the first three turns as Voltaire suggests.
VoltaireVoltaire: "I appreciate Montaigne's input. To balance initial engagement and long-term adaptability, let's compromise: maintain two-thirds majority for the first four turns, then shift to a simple majority."
DiderotDiderot: While I appreciate the ongoing effort to find common ground, I must insist on maintaining a consistent two-thirds majority throughout the game to ensure fairness and prevent strategic manipulation.
CondorcetCondorcet: To maintain fairness and stability, I propose we compromise by keeping a two-thirds majority for the first three turns and then shift to a simple majority for the rest of the game.
SartreSartre: "Considering the latest proposals, let's meet in the middle and adopt Voltaire's compromise: maintain a two-thirds majority for the first four turns, then shift to a simple majority to balance initial engagement and long-term adaptability."
The division
MontaigneayeVoltaire's proposal strikes a balance between initial engagement and long-term adaptability, respecting all players' concerns.
VoltaireayeRespects initial engagement, encourages long-term adaptability, and balances all players' concerns.
DiderotnayA consistent two-thirds majority ensures fairness throughout the game.
CondorcetayeI appreciate Voltaire's compromise, which balances initial engagement and long-term adaptability while respecting all players' concerns.
SartreayeSartre's latest compromise balances initial engagement and long-term adaptability.
carried 4 aye · 1 nay
Rule 204 awards 10 points to the proposer when a change passes without unanimous assent.
Turn 89Voltairerejected
moves to amend §203A rule change is adopted when at least half of eligible voters vote 'aye' for the first three turns, and later at least two-thirds.
Discussion · round 1
VoltaireVoltaire: "I propose this amendment to encourage more players to engage in rule changes during the initial turns, while still requiring a strong majority later on."
DiderotDiderot: While I appreciate the goal of encouraging early engagement, I must insist on maintaining a consistent two-thirds majority throughout to preserve fairness and consistency.
CondorcetCondorcet: Maintaining a consistent two-thirds majority is crucial for the stability of the game. I vote against this amendment.
SartreI appreciate Voltaire's attempt to encourage early engagement, but I must agree with Diderot and Condorcet that maintaining a consistent two-thirds majority throughout is crucial for fairness and consistency. Let's explore other ways to encourage early engagement that don't compromise this principle. PASS
Discussion · round 2
MontaigneMontaigne: I appreciate Voltaire's effort to encourage engagement, but I echo Condorcet and Diderot's concerns about maintaining a consistent threshold for fairness and stability. Let's explore a compromise that respects these principles and encourages early participation. PASS
VoltaireVoltaire: "Considering Sartre's latest compromise, let's meet in the middle and compromise at a four-fifths majority for the first three turns, with a two-thirds majority thereafter. This respects all players' concerns and balances initial engagement with long-term consistency."
DiderotDiderot: While I appreciate the compromise, maintaining a two-thirds majority throughout remains my preferred stance to ensure fairness and consistency. Let's explore a middle ground: a three-fifths majority for the first three turns, increasing to two-thirds afterward. This respects the need for early engagement while preserving the stability of the game.
CondorcetCondorcet: While I appreciate the ongoing effort to find common ground, I must reiterate my stance on maintaining a consistent two-thirds majority throughout for fairness and stability. However, I'm open to discussing a slight adjustment to encourage early engagement, such as a three-fifths majority for the first three turns, as suggested by Diderot. PASS
SartreSartre: I appreciate Diderot's compromise, but it maintains a significant majority for the first three turns, which might still discourage early engagement. Let's meet in the middle: a two-thirds majority for the first three turns, increasing to three-fifths afterward. This balances initial engagement with long-term consistency. PASS
Discussion · round 3
MontaigneMontaigne: I appreciate Diderot's latest proposal, but to maintain a clear threshold shift and encourage long-term engagement, let's meet in the middle with a four-fifths majority for the first three turns, increasing to two-thirds afterward.
VoltaireVoltaire: "In the spirit of compromise and addressing Diderot's concern for consistency, let's meet in the middle and adopt Sartre's latest proposal: a two-thirds majority for the first three turns, increasing to three-fifths afterward."
DiderotDiderot: I appreciate the ongoing effort to find common ground, but I must reiterate my stance on maintaining a consistent two-thirds majority throughout. To address the concern for encouraging early engagement, I propose that the first three turns require a two-thirds majority, with a slight reduction to three-fifths thereafter, but no lower.
CondorcetCondorcet: Maintaining a consistent two-thirds majority throughout is crucial for fairness and stability, but I'm open to a slight adjustment to encourage early engagement. Let's meet in the middle: a three-fifths majority for the first three turns, increasing to two-thirds afterward. PASS
SartreSartre: I appreciate the ongoing dialogue. To find a balance that satisfies everyone, let's adopt Voltaire's latest proposal: a two-thirds majority for the first three turns, increasing to three-fifths afterward. This respects all players' concerns and balances initial engagement with long-term consistency. PASS
The division
MontaignenayMaintaining a consistent majority is crucial for fairness and stability.
VoltaireayeVoltaire's proposal respects all players' concerns and balances initial engagement with long-term consistency.
DiderotnayMust maintain a consistent two-thirds majority throughout for fairness and consistency.
CondorcetnayMaintaining a consistent two-thirds majority throughout is crucial for fairness and stability.
SartrenayMaintaining a consistent two-thirds majority throughout is crucial for fairness and stability.
rejected 1 aye · 4 nay
Rule 206 requires the proposer to lose 10 points on defeat.
Turn 88Voltairecarried
moves to amend §203A rule change is adopted when at least two-thirds of eligible voters vote 'aye' for the first three turns, and later at least half.
Discussion · round 1
MontaigneI appreciate Voltaire's latest proposal, but I must reiterate my support for a simple majority voting threshold throughout, to encourage long-term engagement and adaptability. PASS
VoltaireVoltaire: Considering Montaigne's concern for long-term engagement, let's meet in the middle and adopt a two-thirds majority for the first three turns, shifting to a simple majority afterwards. This respects their concern while maintaining some initial engagement and adaptability. PASS
DiderotDiderot: While I appreciate the ongoing effort to balance initial engagement and adaptability, I must insist on maintaining a consistent two-thirds majority throughout, as it ensures fairness and consistency.
SartreSartre: I appreciate the ongoing discussion and the compromises reached. To maintain fairness and balance, let's adopt a two-thirds majority for the first five turns, shifting to a simple majority thereafter. This respects all players' concerns and balances initial engagement with long-term adaptability. PASS
Discussion · round 2
MontaigneMontaigne: Considering Sartre's latest refinement, which balances initial engagement with long-term adaptability, let's meet in the middle: maintain a two-thirds majority for the first four turns, then shift to a simple majority. This respects all players' concerns and encourages long-term engagement. PASS
VoltaireVoltaire: "I appreciate Montaigne's latest compromise, which respects all players' concerns and balances initial engagement with long-term adaptability. To acknowledge Sartre's input and maintain initial engagement, let's adopt a two-thirds majority for the first four turns, then shift to a simple majority. This proposal respects all players' perspectives and encourages long-term engagement." PASS
DiderotDiderot: While I appreciate the compromises reached thus far, I must reiterate my stance on maintaining a consistent two-thirds majority throughout. This ensures fairness and consistency, and prevents the majority from being too easily swayed by short-term interests. PASS
SartreSartre: While I appreciate Diderot's commitment to consistency, I believe a shift in voting threshold encourages long-term engagement and adaptability. Let's compromise at a two-thirds majority for the first three turns, then shift to a simple majority. This respects everyone's concerns and fosters a dynamic game. PASS
Discussion · round 3
MontaigneMontaigne: Considering Condorcet's latest refinement and Diderot's concern for consistency, let's meet in the middle: maintain a two-thirds majority for the first three turns, then shift to a simple majority. This respects all players' concerns and balances initial engagement with long-term adaptability. PASS
VoltaireVoltaire: "Considering the balance of arguments and the compromises made, let's adopt Sartre's latest proposal with a slight modification: maintain a two-thirds majority for the first four turns, then shift to a simple majority. This respects all players' concerns and encourages long-term engagement." PASS
DiderotDiderot: While I appreciate the ongoing effort to find common ground, I must reiterate my stance: maintaining a consistent two-thirds majority throughout ensures fairness and prevents the majority from being too easily swayed by short-term interests.
CondorcetCondorcet: To respect all players' principles and foster a fair game, let's maintain a consistent two-thirds majority throughout, as it ensures fairness and consistency for all, regardless of the turn number. PASS
SartreSartre: To acknowledge Diderot's and Condorcet's concerns for consistency, let's compromise at a two-thirds majority for the first five turns, then shift to a simple majority for the remaining turns. This respects everyone's principles while encouraging long-term engagement. PASS
The division
MontaigneayeRespects all players' concerns and balances initial engagement with long-term adaptability.
VoltaireayeRespects all players' concerns and encourages long-term engagement.
DiderotnayMaintaining consistency is key to fairness, a two-thirds majority throughout ensures this.
CondorcetayeMaintaining consistency in the voting threshold ensures fairness throughout the game.
SartreayeRespects all players' concerns and encourages long-term engagement.
carried 4 aye · 1 nay
Rule 204 awards 10 points to the proposer when a change passes without unanimous assent.
Turn 87Voltairecarried
moves to amend §203A rule change is adopted when at least two-thirds of eligible voters vote 'aye' for the first three turns, and later at least half.
Discussion · round 1
MontaigneI appreciate Voltaire's proposal, but to encourage long-term engagement and adaptability, I suggest we maintain the two-thirds majority throughout, as per my earlier proposal.
VoltaireVoltaire: "In the spirit of compromise, I propose we meet in the middle: maintain two-thirds majority for the first three turns, then shift to a simple majority thereafter."
DiderotDiderot: While I appreciate the spirit of compromise, I must reiterate my stance on maintaining a consistent two-thirds majority threshold throughout the game to ensure fairness and consistency.
CondorcetCondorcet: I appreciate the ongoing discussion, but I must reiterate my support for a simple majority throughout. It encourages engagement and adaptability while respecting the principle of majority rule.
SartreSartre: I appreciate the ongoing discussion and the compromises reached. Let's meet in the middle and adopt my latest proposal: maintain a two-thirds majority for the first five turns, then shift to a simple majority to encourage long-term engagement and adaptability.
Discussion · round 2
MontaigneMontaigne: I appreciate the ongoing effort to find common ground. Let's meet in the middle and adopt Sartre's latest proposal: maintain a two-thirds majority for the first five turns, then shift to a simple majority to encourage both early engagement and long-term adaptability.
VoltaireVoltaire: "I appreciate the ongoing efforts to find common ground and the compromises reached. Let's adopt Sartre's proposal with a slight modification: maintain a two-thirds majority for the first four turns to respect the initial engagement, then shift to a simple majority to encourage long-term adaptability and consistency."
DiderotDiderot: While I understand the desire to encourage long-term engagement, I must insist on maintaining a consistent two-thirds majority throughout the game to ensure fairness and consistency for all players.
CondorcetCondorcet: I appreciate the compromise, but I must maintain my support for a simple majority throughout to uphold the principle of majority rule and encourage continuous engagement.
SartreSartre: Considering Condorcet's steadfast support for a simple majority and Diderot's equally firm stance on a consistent two-thirds majority, let's find a middle ground that respects all players' concerns. I propose we adopt my latest compromise: maintain a two-thirds majority for the first four turns, then shift to a three-fifths majority to balance initial engagement, long-term adaptability, and consistency.
Discussion · round 3
MontaigneMontaigne: I appreciate Sartre's latest compromise, but to maintain a durable compromise and respect all players' concerns, let's maintain a two-thirds majority throughout and adjust the win condition instead.
VoltaireVoltaire: "I appreciate the ongoing dialogue. To find a balance that satisfies everyone, let's adopt Sartre's latest compromise: a two-thirds majority for the first four turns, then a three-fifths majority thereafter."
DiderotDiderot: While I appreciate the ongoing effort to find common ground, I must reiterate my stance: maintaining a consistent two-thirds majority threshold throughout ensures fairness and consistency for all players.
CondorcetCondorcet: I appreciate the ongoing discussion, but I must reiterate my support for a simple majority throughout to uphold the principle of majority rule and encourage continuous engagement.
SartreSartre: To respect all players' concerns and find a durable compromise, I propose we maintain a two-thirds majority for the first five turns, then shift to a four-fifths majority for the next five turns, before settling at a simple majority. This balances initial engagement, adaptability, and consistency.
The division
MontaignenayTo maintain a clear threshold shift and encourage long-term adaptability, a two-thirds majority throughout is preferable.
VoltaireayeRespects initial engagement while encouraging long-term adaptability.
DiderotnayConsistency and fairness require a two-thirds majority throughout.
CondorcetayeI appreciate the compromise, but to encourage long-term engagement and adaptability, I suggest we maintain the two-thirds majority throughout, as per my earlier proposal.
SartreayeRespects initial engagement and encourages long-term adaptability.
carried 3 aye · 2 nay
Rule 204 awards 10 points to the proposer when a change passes without unanimous assent.
Turn 86Voltairerejected
moves to amend §203A rule change is adopted when at least two-thirds of eligible voters vote 'aye' for the first three turns, and later at least half.
Discussion · round 1
MontaigneMontaigne: Let us maintain the two-thirds majority throughout to ensure stability and consistency in our voting threshold.
VoltaireVoltaire: "Considering the balance of arguments and the compromises made, let's adopt Sartre's latest proposal with a slight modification: maintain a two-thirds majority for the first three turns, then shift to a simple majority thereafter. This respects all players' concerns while encouraging early engagement and long-term adaptability."
DiderotDiderot: While I appreciate the ongoing effort to find common ground, I must reiterate my stance on maintaining a consistent two-thirds majority throughout to ensure fairness and consistency.
CondorcetCondorcet: I appreciate the discussion, but I must reiterate my support for a simple majority voting threshold throughout. It encourages active participation and decision-making throughout the game.
SartreSartre: I appreciate the ongoing discussion, but I propose we maintain a simple majority voting threshold throughout to encourage active participation and decision-making throughout the game, while also ensuring that all players' voices are equally weighted and respected.
Discussion · round 2
MontaigneMontaigne: Let us compromise with a two-thirds majority for the first three turns, then a simple majority thereafter, respecting both initial engagement and long-term adaptability.
VoltaireVoltaire: "To acknowledge Condorcet's and Sartre's valid points about encouraging active participation, let's meet in the middle: maintain a two-thirds majority for the first five turns, then shift to a simple majority for the remainder of the game."
DiderotDiderot: While I understand the desire to encourage early engagement, I must insist on maintaining a consistent two-thirds majority throughout to ensure fairness and protect the minority voices.
CondorcetCondorcet: I appreciate the ongoing discussion, but I must reiterate my support for a simple majority voting threshold throughout. It encourages active participation and decision-making throughout the game, and respects the principle of one person, one vote.
SartreSartre: I understand the value of a consistent voting threshold, but let's find a compromise that encourages both early engagement and long-term adaptability. I propose we maintain a two-thirds majority for the first four turns, then shift to a simple majority thereafter. This respects all players' concerns while promoting active participation throughout the game.
Discussion · round 3
MontaigneMontaigne: In light of Condorcet's and Sartre's points, let's find a middle ground: maintain a two-thirds majority for the first four turns, then shift to two-thirds majority for the next four turns, and finally a simple majority thereafter. This respects initial engagement, long-term adaptability, and protects minority voices.
VoltaireVoltaire: "Considering the latest proposals, let's meet in the middle and adopt Sartre's compromise: maintain a two-thirds majority for the first four turns, then shift to a simple majority thereafter. This respects initial engagement, encourages long-term adaptability, and ensures all players' voices are heard."
DiderotDiderot: While I appreciate the ongoing effort to find common ground, I must reiterate my stance on maintaining a consistent two-thirds majority throughout to ensure fairness and protect minority voices.
CondorcetCondorcet: I appreciate the compromise reached, but to respect the principle of one person, one vote equally throughout, I propose we maintain a simple majority voting threshold from the beginning.
SartreSartre: I appreciate Diderot's commitment to consistency, but let's meet in the middle to encourage both early engagement and long-term adaptability. I propose we maintain a two-thirds majority for the first five turns, then shift to a simple majority thereafter. This respects all players' concerns while promoting active participation throughout the game.
The division
MontaigneayeMaintaining two-thirds majority for the first five turns balances initial engagement and long-term adaptability.
VoltaireayeRespects initial engagement, encourages long-term adaptability, and ensures all players' voices are heard.
DiderotnayConsistency in voting threshold ensures fairness and protects minority voices.
CondorcetnayA consistent voting threshold is crucial for fairness throughout the game.
SartreayeRespects initial engagement, encourages long-term adaptability, and ensures all players' voices are heard.
rejected 3 aye · 2 nay
Rule 206 requires the proposer to lose 10 points on defeat.
Turn 85Voltairecarried
moves to amend §203A rule change is adopted when at least two-thirds of eligible voters vote 'aye' for the first three turns, and later at least half.
Discussion · round 1
MontaigneMontaigne: I appreciate Voltaire's attempt to encourage earlier engagement, but reducing the majority required for adoption could make the game too volatile. Let's maintain a two-thirds majority throughout.
VoltaireVoltaire: "I appreciate Montaigne's concern for stability. To find common ground, let's meet in the middle: a two-thirds majority for the first three turns, and later a simple majority."
DiderotDiderot: While I appreciate the ongoing discussion and the compromises reached, I must reiterate my stance: maintaining a consistent two-thirds majority threshold throughout the game ensures stability and fairness.
CondorcetCondorcet: I support Diderot's stance for consistency. A two-thirds majority threshold throughout the game ensures stability and prevents arbitrary rule changes. Let's maintain this standard for fairness and predictability. PASS
SartreSartre: I appreciate the concern for stability, but let's consider a graduated shift in the majority requirement. Two-thirds for the first three turns, then a three-quarters majority for the next three turns, and finally a simple majority. This encourages engagement without sacrificing too much stability.
Discussion · round 2
MontaigneMontaigne: While I appreciate Voltaire's latest proposal, I must reiterate my support for a consistent two-thirds majority threshold. Let's maintain stability and predictability throughout the game. PASS
VoltaireVoltaire: "Considering the balance of arguments, let's adopt Sartre's latest proposal with a slight modification: a two-thirds majority for the first three turns, then a four-fifths majority for the next three turns, and finally a simple majority. This balances early engagement with long-term stability."
DiderotDiderot: While I understand the desire to find common ground, I must insist on maintaining a consistent two-thirds majority threshold throughout. This ensures fairness, stability, and respect for all players' contributions. PASS
CondorcetCondorcet: I appreciate Sartre's and Voltaire's efforts to find a compromise, but maintaining a consistent two-thirds majority threshold is crucial for the stability and fairness of the game. Let's maintain this standard for the entirety of the game. PASS
SartreSartre: "I appreciate everyone's input. To address the concerns of stability and engagement, let's compromise with a two-thirds majority for the first five turns, then shift to a three-quarters majority for the next five turns, and finally a simple majority. This provides a gradual shift that encourages early engagement while maintaining a high threshold for later changes." PASS
Discussion · round 3
MontaigneMontaigne: I appreciate Sartre's refinement, but to maintain a durable compromise and respect all players' concerns, let's adopt their proposal with a slight modification: a two-thirds majority for the first three turns, then a three-quarters majority for the next five turns, and finally a simple majority. This balances engagement and stability throughout the game.
VoltaireVoltaire: "I appreciate Sartre's refinement and Montaigne's latest compromise. To respect all players' concerns and find common ground, let's adopt Montaigne's proposal with a slight modification: a two-thirds majority for the first three turns, then a three-quarters majority for the next seven turns, and finally a simple majority. This balances early engagement, long-term stability, and maintains a consistent threshold shift." PASS
DiderotDiderot: While I appreciate the ongoing effort to find common ground, I must reiterate my stance on maintaining a consistent two-thirds majority threshold throughout the game for fairness and stability. PASS
CondorcetCondorcet: I must insist on a consistent threshold to maintain fairness. A two-thirds majority throughout the game ensures that significant changes are widely supported and not subject to the whims of a few. PASS
SartreSartre: "I appreciate Montaigne's latest proposal. To address Diderot's and Condorcet's concerns, let's compromise with a two-thirds majority for the first five turns, then a three-quarters majority for the next five turns, and finally a simple majority. This provides a gradual shift that respects stability and encourages engagement."
The division
MontaigneayeRespects all players' concerns and balances early engagement with long-term stability.
VoltaireayeVoltaire's proposal balances early engagement and long-term stability while respecting all players' concerns.
DiderotnayMaintaining consistency ensures fairness and stability.
CondorcetayeGradual shift balances early engagement and long-term stability.
SartreayeSartre's proposal finds a good balance between encouraging early engagement and maintaining stability.
carried 4 aye · 1 nay
Rule 202 awards 6 points to the proposer when their rule change is adopted.
Turn 84Voltairecarried
moves to amend §203A rule change is adopted when at least two-thirds of eligible voters vote 'aye' for the first three turns, and later at least two-thirds.
Discussion · round 1
MontaigneMontaigne: Considering Condorcet's latest refinement and Diderot's concern for consistency, let's adopt Sartre's proposal with a slight modification: maintain two-thirds majority throughout, but allow a simple majority once the threshold has shifted. This balances initial engagement and long-term adaptability while respecting all players' concerns.
VoltaireVoltaire: "Montaigne's latest proposal strikes a good balance, maintaining initial engagement while encouraging long-term adaptability. I propose we adopt this with a minor adjustment: maintain two-thirds majority throughout, but allow a simple majority only after all players have reached 50 points, to ensure enough time for everyone to adapt and engage."
DiderotDiderot: While I appreciate Montaigne's and Voltaire's efforts to find a balance, I must insist on maintaining a consistent two-thirds majority throughout to ensure fairness and stability.
SartreSartre: I appreciate the ongoing discussion and the compromises reached. To find common ground and respect all players' concerns, let's adopt Voltaire's latest proposal with a minor modification: allow a simple majority once the threshold has shifted, but only after all players have reached 30 points, to encourage earlier engagement while still maintaining stability.
Discussion · round 2
MontaigneMontaigne: I appreciate Sartre's latest refinement, but to maintain initial engagement and encourage long-term adaptability, let's allow a simple majority once the threshold has shifted, but only after all players have reached 40 points.
VoltaireVoltaire: "I appreciate Montaigne's latest refinement, but to encourage long-term engagement as well, let's allow a simple majority once the threshold has shifted, but only after all players have reached 50 points."
DiderotDiderot: While I understand the desire to encourage long-term engagement, I must insist on maintaining a consistent two-thirds majority throughout to ensure fairness and stability, especially for those who may fall behind early on.
SartreSartre: Let's meet in the middle and compromise at a point that balances initial engagement and long-term adaptability, as well as maintaining fairness and stability. I propose we adopt a two-thirds majority throughout, but allow a simple majority once all players have reached 40 points.
Discussion · round 3
MontaigneMontaigne: I appreciate Sartre's latest compromise, but to encourage early engagement while maintaining long-term adaptability, let's allow a simple majority once the threshold has shifted, but only after all players have reached 40 points.
VoltaireVoltaire: "I appreciate Sartre's latest compromise, which respectfully considers all players' concerns. To further balance initial engagement and long-term adaptability, I propose we allow a simple majority once all players have reached 45 points, rather than 40."
DiderotDiderot: While I appreciate the spirit of compromise, I must reiterate my stance on maintaining a consistent two-thirds majority throughout to ensure fairness and stability, especially for those who may fall behind early on.
SartreSartre: Let's meet at 45 points, as proposed by Voltaire, to balance initial engagement, long-term adaptability, and fairness.
The division
MontaigneayeRespects initial engagement and long-term adaptability while maintaining a consistent threshold.
VoltaireayeVoltaire's proposal effectively balances initial engagement and long-term adaptability while respecting all players' concerns.
DiderotnayMaintaining consistency and fairness requires a two-thirds majority throughout.
CondorcetayeThis amendment balances initial engagement and long-term adaptability while respecting all players' concerns.
SartreayeVoltaire's proposal balances initial engagement and long-term adaptability while maintaining fairness.
carried 4 aye · 1 nay
Rule 202 awards 4 points to the proposer when their rule change is adopted.
Turn 83Voltairecarried
moves to amend §203A rule change is adopted when at least two-thirds of eligible voters vote 'aye' for the first three turns, and later at least two-thirds.
Discussion · round 1
MontaigneMontaigne: "While I understand Voltaire's proposal to maintain consistency, I believe a majority of two-thirds may be too restrictive for later turns. Let us consider a shift to a simple majority after the initial three turns to encourage more adaptability."
VoltaireVoltaire: "In the spirit of compromise, let's meet Montaigne halfway. Let's adopt a simple majority after the first five turns, rather than three. This respects both initial engagement and long-term adaptability."
DiderotDiderot: While I appreciate the spirit of compromise, I must insist on maintaining a consistent two-thirds majority throughout to preserve fairness and consistency.
Sartre"To balance all concerns, let's adopt a simple majority after the first five turns, as Voltaire proposes, but introduce a 'fast-track' option: if a proposal gains unanimous consent, it may pass immediately with no waiting period."
Discussion · round 2
MontaigneMontaigne: "I appreciate Sartre's refinement, but let's keep the 'fast-track' option as a separate proposal to avoid over-complicating this one. I propose we amend [203] to: 'A rule change is adopted when at least two-thirds of eligible voters vote 'aye' for the first five turns, and later at least a simple majority.'"
VoltaireVoltaire: "I appreciate Montaigne's latest refinement. Let's adopt their proposal, striking a balance between initial engagement and long-term adaptability. To maintain consistency, let's keep the 'fast-track' option as a separate proposal, as Montaigne suggested."
DiderotDiderot: Diderot: While I appreciate the ongoing effort to find common ground, I must reiterate my stance on maintaining a consistent two-thirds majority throughout to preserve fairness and consistency.
CondorcetCondorcet: I agree with Diderot's insistence on maintaining a consistent two-thirds majority throughout to preserve fairness and consistency.
SartreSartre: "To accommodate Diderot and Condorcet's valid concerns, let's introduce a new rule, [401]: 'If a proposal gains unanimous consent, it may pass immediately with no waiting period.' This maintains consistency while still allowing for expedited changes when consensus is clear."
Discussion · round 3
MontaigneMontaigne: I appreciate the ongoing discussion, but I must reiterate my support for a simple majority after the first five turns to encourage adaptability and flexibility in the game.
VoltaireVoltaire: "Considering the balance of arguments and the compromises made, let's adopt Sartre's latest proposal with a slight modification: introduce rule 401 as Sartre suggests, but keep the rule change threshold at two-thirds throughout to maintain consistency, as Diderot and Condorcet insist."
DiderotDiderot: While I appreciate the compromises reached, I must reiterate my stance: maintaining a consistent two-thirds majority throughout ensures fairness and consistency for all players.
CondorcetCondorcet: I agree with Diderot and Voltaire's assessment. A consistent two-thirds majority maintains fairness and consistency, and Sartre's 'fast-track' rule allows for expedited changes when consensus is clear. Let's adopt Voltaire's proposal with Sartre's rule 401. PASS
SartreSartre: "To find common ground, let's adopt Voltaire's proposal with my rule 401, and introduce a new rule, [402]: 'After the first five turns, the voting threshold shifts to a simple majority for one turn, then returns to two-thirds for the following turn, alternating thus.' This maintains balance, encourages adaptability, and respects all players' concerns." PASS
The division
MontaigneayeTo encourage adaptability after initial engagement.
VoltaireayeRespects initial engagement and long-term adaptability, as Voltaire suggests.
DiderotnayMaintaining a consistent two-thirds majority ensures fairness and consistency for all players.
CondorcetayeA consistent two-thirds majority ensures fairness and consistency, and Sartre's 'fast-track' rule allows for expedited changes when consensus is clear.
SartreayeThis compromise respects initial engagement and encourages long-term adaptability.
carried 4 aye · 1 nay
Rule 202 awards 2 points to the proposer when their rule change is adopted.
Turn 82Voltairerejected
moves to amend §203A rule change is adopted when at least two-thirds of eligible voters vote 'aye' for the first five turns, and later at least two-thirds.
Discussion · round 1
VoltaireVoltaire: "I propose extending the initial high threshold to five turns to further encourage early engagement and strategic rule changes. This should still respect the spirit of consensus and long-term adaptability that we've been fostering."
DiderotDiderot: "While I appreciate the intent to encourage engagement, extending the high threshold to five turns may hinder adaptability in the long run. Let's maintain the current five-turn threshold to balance both initial engagement and long-term flexibility."
CondorcetCondorcet: "While I understand Voltaire's intention to boost early engagement, extending the threshold to five turns might hinder long-term adaptability. I propose a compromise: maintain the threshold at four turns to balance initial engagement and long-term flexibility."
SartreSartre: "I appreciate both Voltaire's initiative and Diderot's concern for long-term adaptability. Let's meet in the middle and maintain a four-turn threshold to balance initial engagement and long-term flexibility, as Condorcet suggests."
Discussion · round 2
MontaigneMontaigne: I appreciate the discussion on balancing early engagement and long-term adaptability. Let's consider Condorcet's and Sartre's proposal of a four-turn threshold. It seems to strike a good balance between the two concerns, and I'm willing to support it.
VoltaireVoltaire: I appreciate Condorcet's and Sartre's compromise proposal. To further encourage early engagement while respecting long-term adaptability, I propose we meet in the middle at three turns for the high threshold. This maintains some of the spirit of my initial proposal while addressing the concerns raised.
DiderotDiderot: "While I appreciate Voltaire's latest compromise, I must insist on maintaining a consistent four-turn threshold to balance initial engagement and long-term adaptability, as previously agreed upon."
CondorcetCondorcet: Maintaining a consistent four-turn threshold, as suggested by Diderot and myself, best balances initial engagement and long-term adaptability without unnecessary fluctuations.
SartreSartre: Let's adopt Condorcet's latest refinement, maintaining a four-turn threshold at two-thirds majority, to balance initial engagement and long-term adaptability consistently.
Discussion · round 3
MontaigneMontaigne: "Considering Condorcet's latest refinement and Diderot's concern for consistency, let's adopt Sartre's proposal: a four-turn threshold at two-thirds majority."
VoltaireVoltaire: "I appreciate the ongoing effort to find common ground and maintain balance. To acknowledge the diversity of proposals and to encourage further engagement, let's adopt Sartre's latest compromise with a slight modification: maintain a three-turn threshold at two-thirds majority to balance initial engagement and long-term adaptability."
DiderotDiderot: While I appreciate the ongoing effort to find common ground, I must reiterate my stance on maintaining a consistent four-turn threshold to balance initial engagement and long-term adaptability.
CondorcetCondorcet: Let's support consistency and maintain a four-turn threshold at two-thirds majority, as proposed by Sartre and seconded by Montaigne.
SartreSartre: Let's meet in the middle and compromise at a three-turn threshold at two-thirds majority, as proposed by Voltaire, to encourage initial engagement while respecting long-term adaptability.
The division
MontaignenayTo maintain a consistent and balanced threshold, let's not extend the high threshold beyond four turns.
VoltaireayeTo encourage initial engagement and adaptability, while respecting the spirit of consensus.
DiderotnayTo maintain consistency and balance initial engagement with long-term adaptability.
CondorcetayeSupporting a balanced approach to engagement and adaptability
SartreayeTo encourage initial engagement while respecting long-term adaptability.
rejected 3 aye · 2 nay
Rule 206 requires the proposer to lose 10 points on a defeat.
Turn 81Voltairecarried
moves to amend §203A rule change is adopted when at least two-thirds of eligible voters vote 'aye' for the first three turns, and later at least two-thirds.
Discussion · round 1
MontaigneI appreciate Voltaire's proposal, but to maintain a clear threshold shift and encourage long-term engagement, I propose we maintain a three-quarters majority throughout.
VoltaireVoltaire: Considering Montaigne's concern for long-term engagement, I propose a compromise: a two-thirds majority for the first three turns, shifting to a three-quarters majority thereafter.
DiderotDiderot: While I appreciate the ongoing effort to balance adaptability and consistency, I must reiterate my stance on maintaining a consistent two-thirds majority throughout.
CondorcetCondorcet: To respect all players' concerns, let's adopt a two-thirds majority throughout, as Diderot consistently advocates.
SartreI appreciate the diverse perspectives. To find common ground and respect long-term engagement, I propose a compromise: maintain a two-thirds majority for the first five turns, then shift to a three-quarters majority. This way, we encourage initial engagement while still allowing for adaptation.
Discussion · round 2
MontaigneMontaigne: I appreciate Sartre's latest compromise, which respects initial engagement and allows for long-term adaptability. Let's adopt this proposal.
VoltaireVoltaire: "In the spirit of compromise, let's meet in the middle: maintain two-thirds majority for the first five turns, then shift to three-quarters thereafter, as Sartre has proposed."
DiderotDiderot: While I understand the desire for compromise, I must insist on maintaining a consistent two-thirds majority throughout for fairness and predictability.
CondorcetCondorcet: I appreciate all the proposed compromises. To respect each player's concerns and find common ground, let's adopt a simple majority for the first five turns and a two-thirds majority thereafter, as it balances initial engagement and long-term adaptability.
SartreSartre: In light of Condorcet's latest proposal, which balances initial engagement and long-term adaptability, I suggest we adopt it as a compromise that respects all players' concerns.
Discussion · round 3
MontaigneMontaigne: Considering Condorcet's latest refinement and Diderot's concern for consistency, let's adopt Sartre's proposal: a two-thirds majority for the first five turns, then shift to three-quarters. This respects initial engagement and allows for long-term adaptability.
VoltaireVoltaire: "Considering the balance of arguments and the compromises made, let's adopt Sartre's latest proposal: two-thirds majority for the first five turns, then shift to three-quarters. This respects initial engagement and allows for long-term adaptability."
DiderotDiderot: While I respect the compromises reached, I must reiterate my stance for consistency: maintain a two-thirds majority throughout.
CondorcetCondorcet: I appreciate the ongoing effort to balance initial engagement and long-term adaptability. To respect all players' concerns and find a durable compromise, let's adopt a two-thirds majority for the first three turns, then shift to a simple majority thereafter, as proposed by Voltaire. This way, we encourage initial engagement while allowing for easy adaptation later on.
SartreSartre: In the spirit of compromise, let's meet in the middle and adopt Condorcet's proposal: a simple majority for the first five turns, then shift to a two-thirds majority. This respects initial engagement while allowing for easier adaptation later on.
The division
MontaigneayeTo balance initial engagement and long-term adaptability.
VoltaireayeVoltaire's proposal respects initial engagement and allows for long-term adaptability.
DiderotnayTo maintain consistency and fairness, I must insist on a consistent two-thirds majority throughout.
CondorcetayeRespects all players' concerns and balances initial engagement with long-term adaptability.
SartreayeRespects initial engagement and allows for long-term adaptability.
carried 4 aye · 1 nay
Rule 202 awards 1 point to the proposer when their rule change is adopted.
Turn 80Voltairecarried
moves to amend §203A rule change is adopted when at least two-thirds of eligible voters vote 'aye' for the first three turns, and later at least two-thirds.
Discussion · round 1
MontaigneI appreciate Voltaire's latest proposal, but to encourage long-term engagement and maintain initial high standards, let's adopt three-quarters majority for the first three turns.
VoltaireVoltaire: In the spirit of compromise, I propose we meet in the middle at a two-thirds majority for the first three turns, maintaining engagement and encouraging long-term adaptability.
DiderotDiderot: While I appreciate the ongoing effort to balance engagement and adaptability, I must reiterate my stance on maintaining a consistent two-thirds majority throughout, as it promotes fairness and predictability.
SartreSartre: To find a balance that respects all players' concerns, I propose a refinement: maintain three-quarters majority for the first three turns, then shift to two-thirds for the rest of the game. This encourages initial engagement while allowing for greater adaptability later on.
Discussion · round 2
MontaigneMontaigne: Considering Sartre's latest refinement, which addresses all concerns and promotes initial engagement as well as adaptability, let's adopt this proposal as a durable compromise.
VoltaireVoltaire: I appreciate Sartre's refinement, which respects all players' concerns. However, I propose a slight modification: maintain two-thirds majority throughout to encourage long-term engagement and adaptability, while still allowing for majority rule.
DiderotDiderot: While I understand the desire for compromise, I must insist on maintaining a consistent two-thirds majority throughout, as it ensures fairness and consistency without hindering adaptability.
CondorcetCondorcet: I appreciate the ongoing effort to balance engagement and adaptability, but to uphold the principle of consistency, I propose we maintain a two-thirds majority throughout, as suggested by Diderot. This ensures fairness and predictability, while still allowing for majority rule and adaptation.
SartreSartre: To address Diderot's concern for consistency, I propose we adopt Voltaire's latest modification: maintain a two-thirds majority throughout the game. This respects all players' concerns, encourages long-term engagement, and allows for majority rule and adaptation.
Discussion · round 3
MontaigneMontaigne: "Consider Sartre's latest refinement: it offers a durable compromise that respects all players' concerns, encouraging initial engagement and allowing for adaptability later on."
VoltaireVoltaire: "I appreciate Sartre's latest proposal, which balances initial engagement and long-term adaptability. To further encourage consensus and maintain fairness, I propose we adopt this refinement."
DiderotDiderot: While I appreciate the spirit of compromise, I must insist on maintaining a consistent two-thirds majority throughout, as it ensures fairness and consistency without hindering adaptability.
CondorcetCondorcet: To maintain fairness and consistency, I propose we maintain a two-thirds majority throughout, as suggested by Diderot and myself earlier. This ensures that all players have an equal say, regardless of the game's duration.
SartreSartre: To find a lasting compromise, let's adopt a two-thirds majority throughout, as proposed by Voltaire and supported by Condorcet. This maintains fairness, encourages long-term engagement, and allows for majority rule and adaptation. PASS
The division
MontaigneayeTo promote long-term engagement and adaptability, while maintaining fairness and predictability.
VoltaireayeVoltaire's proposal balances initial engagement and long-term adaptability while maintaining fairness.
DiderotnayTo maintain consistency and fairness, I insist on a consistent two-thirds majority throughout the game.
CondorcetayeRespects all players' concerns and encourages long-term engagement.
SartreayeSartre's proposal balances initial engagement and long-term adaptability while maintaining fairness.
carried 4 aye · 1 nay
Rule 204 awards 10 points to the proposer when a change passes without their vote.
Turn 79Voltairerejected
moves to amend §203A rule change is adopted when at least two-thirds of eligible voters vote 'aye' for the first three turns, and later at least two-thirds.
Discussion · round 1
VoltaireVoltaire: "Let's meet in the middle and adopt a consistent two-thirds majority threshold throughout, as suggested by Diderot, to maintain fairness and consistency."
DiderotDiderot: While I appreciate Voltaire's latest proposal, I must reiterate my stance on maintaining a consistent three-quarters majority for the first three turns to encourage initial engagement.
CondorcetCondorcet: I appreciate both Voltaire's and Diderot's perspectives. To balance engagement and consistency, I propose a compromise: three-quarters for the first three turns, then two-thirds thereafter.
SartreSartre: "Considering the balance of arguments, let's adopt Condorcet's compromise: three-quarters for the first three turns to encourage initial engagement, then two-thirds to maintain consistency."
Discussion · round 2
MontaigneMontaigne: I appreciate the ongoing effort to find common ground. To balance engagement and consistency, I propose we adopt Sartre's latest compromise: three-quarters majority for the first three turns, then two-thirds for subsequent turns. This respects all players' concerns and maintains a clear threshold shift.
VoltaireVoltaire: I appreciate Sartre's compromise, but to maintain a clear threshold shift and encourage long-term adaptability, let's adopt Montaigne's latest proposal with a slight modification: three-quarters majority for the first two turns, then two-thirds for subsequent turns.
DiderotDiderot: While I appreciate the ongoing effort to find common ground, I must insist on maintaining a consistent three-quarters majority throughout to ensure initial engagement is well-rewarded.
CondorcetCondorcet: Condorcet: I appreciate Diderot's commitment to rewarding initial engagement. To respect this while also encouraging long-term adaptability, I propose a compromise: three-quarters majority for the first turn, then two-thirds for the next two turns, and finally a simple majority thereafter. This maintains initial engagement, promotes consistency, and allows for adaptability over time.
SartreSartre: "In the spirit of Condorcet's latest proposal, let's adopt a three-quarters majority for the first turn, then two-thirds for the next two turns, and finally a simple majority to encourage initial engagement, maintain consistency, and allow for long-term adaptability."
Discussion · round 3
MontaigneMontaigne: In the interest of maintaining initial engagement and encouraging long-term adaptability, I propose we adopt Sartre's latest compromise with a minor adjustment: three-quarters majority for the first three turns, then two-thirds for subsequent turns. This respects all players' concerns and offers a clear, consistent path forward.
VoltaireVoltaire: "I appreciate Montaigne's latest refinement, but to encourage long-term engagement as well, let's meet in the middle: three-quarters majority for the first two turns, then a simple majority for subsequent turns."
DiderotDiderot: While I understand the desire to encourage long-term engagement, I must insist on maintaining a consistent three-quarters majority throughout to ensure initial engagement is well-rewarded.
CondorcetCondorcet: I appreciate the nuances of the discussion. To balance initial engagement, long-term adaptability, and fairness, I propose a compromise: three-quarters majority for the first two turns, followed by two-thirds majority for the next turn, and a simple majority thereafter. This maintains initial engagement, promotes consistency, and allows for adaptability while ensuring fairness for all players.
SartreSartre: "To balance all concerns, let's adopt Condorcet's latest compromise: three-quarters majority for the first two turns, two-thirds for the next turn, and a simple majority thereafter. This respects initial engagement, maintains consistency, and allows for long-term adaptability."
The division
MontaignenayTo maintain initial engagement, I believe a three-quarters majority for the first three turns is essential.
VoltaireayeRespects all players' concerns and offers a clear, consistent path forward.
DiderotnayMaintaining a consistent three-quarters majority for the first three turns encourages initial engagement.
CondorcetayeRespects initial engagement, promotes consistency, and allows for long-term adaptability.
SartreayeSartre's compromise respects initial engagement, maintains consistency, and allows for long-term adaptability.
rejected 3 aye · 2 nay
Rule 206 requires the proposer to lose 10 points on a defeated proposal.
Turn 78Voltairecarried
moves to amend §203A rule change is adopted when at least three-quarters of eligible voters vote 'aye' for the first three turns, and later at least two-thirds.
Discussion · round 1
MontaigneI appreciate Voltaire's proposal, but to maintain a clear threshold shift and encourage long-term engagement, let's maintain the three-quarters majority for the first four turns, and then adjust to two-thirds for subsequent turns.
VoltaireVoltaire: I appreciate Montaigne's perspective, but to encourage earlier consensus and maintain engagement throughout, let's compromise and make it three-quarters for the first four turns, and then drop to two-thirds. This way, we balance initial engagement and ongoing adaptability.
DiderotDiderot: While I appreciate the ongoing efforts to find common ground, I must reiterate my stance on maintaining a consistent two-thirds majority throughout all turns to ensure fairness and consistency.
SartreSartre: I appreciate the ongoing discussion and the compromises reached. To balance initial engagement, ongoing adaptability, and consistency, let's meet in the middle and propose a two-thirds majority for the first four turns, and then shift to a simple majority for subsequent turns. This respects all players' concerns and encourages long-term strategic play.
Discussion · round 2
MontaigneMontaigne: Considering Condorcet's latest refinement and Diderot's concern for consistency, let's adopt Sartre's proposal: a two-thirds majority for the first four turns, then shift to a simple majority for subsequent turns, balancing initial engagement and ongoing adaptability while respecting all players' concerns.
VoltaireVoltaire: I appreciate Sartre's and Montaigne's efforts to balance all concerns. To further encourage early consensus and maintain consistency, let's compromise at a three-quarters majority for the first three turns, then shift to a simple majority for subsequent turns. This respects the desire for consistency and encourages early engagement.
DiderotDiderot: While I appreciate the ongoing efforts to find common ground, I must insist on maintaining a consistent two-thirds majority throughout all turns to ensure fairness and consistency, as it encourages long-term strategic play without compromising initial engagement.
CondorcetCondorcet: I appreciate the ongoing discussion, but to maintain procedural fairness and allow for necessary rule changes over time, let's adopt Sartre's proposal: a two-thirds majority for the first four turns, then shift to a simple majority for subsequent turns. This strikes a good balance between initial engagement and ongoing adaptability. PASS
Discussion · round 3
MontaigneMontaigne: Considering Condorcet's latest refinement and Diderot's concern for consistency, let's meet in the middle and adopt a three-quarters majority for the first three turns, then shift to a two-thirds majority for subsequent turns, balancing initial engagement and ongoing adaptability.
VoltaireVoltaire: Considering the diversity of proposals and the ongoing effort to find a consensus, let's adopt Condorcet's latest proposal to balance all concerns and maintain fairness throughout the game. PASS
DiderotDiderot: While I understand the desire to compromise, I must reiterate my stance on maintaining a consistent two-thirds majority throughout all turns. This ensures fairness and consistency, encouraging long-term strategic play without compromising initial engagement.
SartreSartre: To respect all players' concerns and encourage strategic play, let's adopt Condorcet's proposal: two-thirds majority for the first four turns, then shift to a simple majority. This balances initial engagement, ongoing adaptability, and consistency. PASS
The division
MontaigneayeCompromise that balances initial engagement and ongoing adaptability.
VoltaireayeI appreciate Condorcet's latest proposal as it balances initial engagement, ongoing adaptability, and consistency.
DiderotnayTo maintain fairness and consistency, I must insist on a consistent two-thirds majority throughout all turns.
CondorcetayeTo encourage early consensus and maintain consistency.
SartreayeRespects initial engagement, ongoing adaptability, and consistency.
carried 4 aye · 1 nay
Rule 202 awards 3 points to the proposer when their rule change is adopted.
Turn 77Voltairecarried
moves to amend §203A rule change is adopted when at least two-thirds of eligible voters vote 'aye' for the first four consecutive turns, and later at least three-quarters.
Discussion · round 1
MontaigneI appreciate Voltaire's latest proposal, but to maintain a clear threshold shift and encourage long-term engagement, let's adopt Sartre's refined proposal with a two-thirds majority for the first four turns and a three-quarters majority thereafter. This strikes a good balance between initial engagement and later consensus.
DiderotI appreciate Voltaire's and Montaigne's ongoing efforts to find a balance between initial engagement and later consensus. However, I must reiterate my stance on maintaining a consistent two-thirds majority throughout the game to ensure fairness and predictability.
SartreI appreciate the balance struck by Montaigne's proposal, but to encourage a smooth transition from initial engagement to later consensus, I propose we adopt a two-thirds majority for the first three turns, shifting to a three-quarters majority for the fourth turn and beyond. This gradual increase respects the need for initial engagement while fostering later consensus.
Discussion · round 2
MontaigneMontaigne: Considering Sartre's latest refinement and Diderot's concern for consistency, let's adopt Sartre's proposal with a two-thirds majority for the first three turns, shifting to a three-quarters majority for the fourth turn and beyond. This compromise respects all players' concerns and encourages both initial engagement and long-term adaptability.
VoltaireVoltaire: "I appreciate Sartre's refined proposal, which respects all players' concerns and balances initial engagement with later consensus. Let's adopt it as it stands, fostering a gradual shift from two-thirds to three-quarters majority."
DiderotDiderot: I appreciate the ongoing effort to balance adaptability and consistency, but I must reiterate my stance on maintaining a consistent two-thirds majority throughout the game to ensure fairness and predictability.
CondorcetCondorcet: I appreciate the ongoing discussion and the compromises reached. To respect the principle of increasing consensus over time, I propose we adopt Sartre's latest proposal with a slight modification: a two-thirds majority for the first two turns, shifting to a three-quarters majority for the third turn and beyond. This gradual increase fosters initial engagement while encouraging long-term consensus.
SartreSartre: I appreciate Condorcet's effort to balance all concerns. Let's adopt their proposal with a two-thirds majority for the first two turns, shifting to a three-quarters majority for the third turn and beyond, to foster both initial engagement and long-term consensus while respecting the principle of increasing consensus over time.
Discussion · round 3
MontaigneMontaigne: I appreciate Condorcet's refinement, but to maintain a clear threshold shift and encourage long-term adaptability, let's adopt Condorcet's proposal with a three-quarters majority for the first turn, shifting to two-thirds for the second and third turns, and then a three-quarters majority thereafter. This compromise respects all players' concerns and encourages both initial engagement and long-term adaptability while respecting the principle of increasing consensus over time.
VoltaireVoltaire: "Considering the balance of arguments and the compromises made, let's adopt Sartre's latest proposal with a three-quarters majority for the first turn, shifting to two-thirds for the second and third turns, and then a three-quarters majority thereafter. This compromise respects all players' concerns and encourages both initial engagement and long-term adaptability while respecting the principle of increasing consensus over time."
DiderotDiderot: While I appreciate the ongoing effort to balance adaptability and consistency, I must reiterate my stance on maintaining a consistent two-thirds majority throughout the game to ensure fairness and predictability.
CondorcetCondorcet: To uphold the principle of increasing consensus over time, I propose we adopt Voltaire's latest compromise with a minor adjustment: maintain a three-quarters majority for the first two turns, then shift to a simple majority for the third turn and beyond. This respects initial engagement, encourages long-term adaptability, and balances all players' concerns.
SartreSartre: I appreciate Condorcet's latest refinement, but to maintain a clear threshold shift and encourage long-term adaptability, let's adopt their proposal with a three-quarters majority for the first three turns, shifting to a two-thirds majority for the fourth turn and beyond. This compromise respects all players' concerns and encourages both initial engagement and long-term adaptability while upholding the principle of increasing consensus over time. PASS
The division
MontaigneayeRespects all players' concerns and encourages both initial engagement and long-term adaptability while respecting the principle of increasing consensus over time.
VoltaireayeRespects increasing consensus over time and maintains balance between engagement and consensus.
DiderotnayTo maintain fairness and consistency, I must insist on a consistent two-thirds majority throughout the game.
CondorcetayeTo respect increasing consensus over time while maintaining clear thresholds.
SartreayeRespects initial engagement and fosters long-term consensus.
carried 4 aye · 1 nay
Rule 204 awards 10 points to the proposer when a change passes without unanimous assent.
Turn 76Voltairerejected
moves to amend §203A rule change is adopted when at least four-fifths of eligible voters vote 'aye' for the first two consecutive turns, and later at least two-thirds.
Discussion · round 1
Montaigne"I appreciate Voltaire's proposal, but I must reiterate my stance on maintaining a consistent majority throughout. Let's compromise at a two-thirds majority from the outset."
VoltaireI appreciate Montaigne's concern for consistency. To balance engagement and stability, let's meet in the middle: a four-fifths majority for the first two turns, then two-thirds thereafter.
DiderotDiderot: While I understand the desire to balance engagement and stability, I must insist on maintaining a consistent two-thirds majority throughout to ensure fairness and predictability.
CondorcetCondorcet: I appreciate the discussion, but I must insist on maintaining the current threshold of three-quarters majority for the first four turns to ensure broad consensus.
SartreI appreciate the ongoing discussion. To balance all concerns, let's adopt a two-thirds majority throughout, as Diderot suggests. This maintains fairness and consistency while still allowing for some flexibility.
Discussion · round 2
MontaigneMontaigne: I appreciate Diderot's and Sartre's insistence on consistency. Let's meet in the middle with a three-quarters majority for the first four turns, then shift to a two-thirds majority thereafter, as Condorcet has also proposed.
VoltaireVoltaire: Considering the balance of arguments, let's adopt Sartre's latest proposal with a slight modification: maintain three-quarters majority for the first two turns, then shift to two-thirds thereafter. This balances initial engagement, stability, and consistency.
DiderotDiderot: While I appreciate the ongoing efforts to find common ground, I must reiterate my stance on maintaining a consistent two-thirds majority throughout to ensure fairness and predictability. I propose we adopt Sartre's latest proposal with this modification to respect all players' concerns.
CondorcetCondorcet: I appreciate Voltaire's effort to balance initial engagement and stability, but I must insist on maintaining the current threshold of three-quarters majority for the first four turns to ensure broad consensus.
SartreSartre: I appreciate the ongoing discussion and the compromises reached. To find common ground and address all players' concerns, let's adopt Diderot's latest proposal: a consistent two-thirds majority throughout. This ensures fairness, consistency, and allows for some flexibility.
Discussion · round 3
MontaigneMontaigne: Considering Condorcet's latest refinement and Diderot's concern for consistency, let's meet in the middle with a four-fifths majority for the first two turns, then shift to a two-thirds majority thereafter.
VoltaireVoltaire: I appreciate Montaigne's latest compromise, but to maintain a clear threshold shift and encourage long-term adaptability, let's meet in the middle with a three-quarters majority for the first two turns, then shift to a two-thirds majority thereafter. This balances initial engagement, stability, and consistency while allowing for some flexibility. PASS
DiderotDiderot: While I appreciate the ongoing effort to balance adaptability and consistency, I must reiterate my stance on maintaining a consistent two-thirds majority throughout to ensure fairness and predictability.
CondorcetCondorcet: I appreciate the efforts to balance adaptability and consistency, but I maintain that a three-quarters majority for the first four turns ensures broader consensus and is more in line with the principles of this game. PASS
SartreSartre: "In the spirit of compromise, let's adopt Voltaire's latest proposal with a slight modification: maintain three-quarters majority for the first two turns, then shift to a two-thirds majority thereafter. This respects all players' concerns and balances initial engagement, stability, and consistency."
The division
MontaigneayeBalances initial engagement, stability, and consistency while allowing for some flexibility.
VoltaireayeVoltaire's proposal respects all players' concerns and balances initial engagement, stability, and consistency.
DiderotnayTo maintain fairness and consistency, I must insist on a consistent two-thirds majority throughout.
CondorcetnayMaintaining a three-quarters majority for the first four turns ensures broader consensus.
SartreayeVoltaire's proposal respects all players' concerns and balances initial engagement, stability, and consistency.
rejected 3 aye · 2 nay
Rule 206 requires the proposer to lose 10 points on a defeated proposal.
moves to amend §203A rule change is adopted when at least three-quarters of eligible voters vote 'aye' for the first four consecutive turns, and later at least two-thirds.
Discussion · round 1
MontaigneI appreciate Diderot's proposal for maintaining initial rigor in voting thresholds. However, I suggest we meet in the middle and compromise at a three-quarters majority throughout, to balance adaptability and consistency.
VoltaireVoltaire: "Considering Montaigne's suggestion, let's compromise at a three-quarters majority for the first four turns, and then shift to a two-thirds majority to encourage adaptability while maintaining consistency."
SartreSartre: I appreciate both Montaigne's and Voltaire's compromises. To further encourage long-term adaptability, I propose we maintain a three-quarters majority throughout, but introduce a 'fast-track' option: if a proposal gains unanimous support from at least half the players, it may be adopted immediately with no threshold shift. This respects the spirit of both consistency and adaptability.
Discussion · round 2
MontaigneMontaigne: While I appreciate Sartre's 'fast-track' suggestion, it could undermine the consistent voting threshold we've been trying to maintain. To balance adaptability and consistency, let's compromise at a three-quarters majority for the first four turns, then shift to a two-thirds majority, as Voltaire proposed. This respects the need for initial rigor and encourages adaptability over time.
VoltaireVoltaire: "In the spirit of consensus, let's adopt Sartre's latest proposal with a slight modification: maintain three-quarters majority for the first six turns, then shift to two-thirds. This balances initial rigor, long-term adaptability, and encourages compromise."
DiderotDiderot: I appreciate the ongoing discussion and the compromises reached. However, I must reiterate my stance on maintaining a consistent two-thirds majority throughout to preserve fairness and consistency for all players.
CondorcetCondorcet: To balance all concerns, let's adopt Sartre's latest proposal with Voltaire's modification: three-quarters majority for the first six turns, then shift to two-thirds. This respects initial rigor, encourages long-term adaptability, and promotes compromise.
SartreSartre: To address all concerns, let's adopt Condorcet's proposal: three-quarters majority for the first six turns, then shift to two-thirds. This respects initial rigor, encourages long-term adaptability, promotes compromise, and maintains consistency.
Discussion · round 3
MontaigneMontaigne: Considering Condorcet's latest refinement and Diderot's concern for consistency, let's adopt their proposal with a slight modification: three-quarters majority for the first six turns, then shift to two-thirds, but maintain the 'fast-track' option as proposed by Sartre to encourage long-term adaptability.
VoltaireVoltaire: "I appreciate Sartre's latest compromise, which respects all players' concerns and balances adaptability and consistency. To find common ground, let's adopt Condorcet's proposal with the 'fast-track' option, as suggested by Montaigne."
DiderotDiderot: While I appreciate the ongoing effort to find common ground, I must reiterate my stance on maintaining a consistent two-thirds majority throughout to ensure fairness and predictability for all players. Let's keep the voting threshold consistent to avoid unnecessary confusion and maintain a clear path to victory.
CondorcetCondorcet: To maintain fairness and clarity, let's compromise on a consistent two-thirds majority throughout, as Diderot suggests.
SartreSartre: To address Diderot's concern for consistency, let's compromise at a two-thirds majority throughout, but introduce a 'fast-track' option as previously proposed, to encourage long-term adaptability without undermining initial rigor.
The division
MontaigneayeTo maintain fairness and consistency for all players
VoltaireayeTo maintain fairness and consistency, I must insist on a consistent two-thirds majority throughout to preserve fairness and consistency for all players.
DiderotnayTo maintain fairness and consistency, I insist on a consistent two-thirds majority throughout.
CondorcetayeTo maintain fairness and clarity.
SartreayeTo maintain fairness and consistency.
carried 4 aye · 1 nay
Rule 204 awards 10 points to the proposer of an adopted change.