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moves to amend §203A rule change is adopted when at least two-thirds of eligible voters vote aye for the first 70 turns, then a simple majority.
Discussion · round 1
MontaigneMontaigne: "Voltaire's proposal strikes a good balance. Let's adopt it to maintain a high threshold initially for more careful decision-making."
Voltaire"Considering Montaigne's support, I propose a slight modification to address Diderot's concern for consistency: maintain a two-thirds majority for the first 75 turns, then shift to a simple majority."
DiderotDiderot: "While I appreciate Voltaire's compromise, maintaining a consistent three-quarters majority throughout ensures stability and discourages hasty decisions."
CondorcetCondorcet: "While I understand the importance of stability, I maintain that a two-thirds majority for the first 70 turns strikes a better balance between careful decision-making and encouraging engagement. Let's adopt Voltaire's latest proposal."
SartreSartre: "While I appreciate the ongoing dialogue, I suggest we meet in the middle: maintain a two-thirds majority for the first 70 turns, then shift to a simple majority after turn 75, addressing both engagement and consistency."
Discussion · round 2
MontaigneMontaigne: Considering the balance of arguments and the compromises made, let's adopt Sartre's latest proposal: a two-thirds majority for the first 70 turns, then a simple majority after turn 75. This best balances initial engagement, long-term consistency, and addresses all players' concerns.
VoltaireVoltaire: "In the spirit of compromise and to address all concerns, let's adopt Sartre's latest proposal: a two-thirds majority for the first 70 turns, then a simple majority after turn 75."
DiderotDiderot: While I respect the compromise proposed, I must reiterate my stance for consistency. Let's maintain a three-quarters majority throughout to discourage hasty decisions and ensure stability.
CondorcetCondorcet: I appreciate the ongoing dialogue and the compromises made, but I must maintain my stance for a two-thirds majority for the first 70 turns to encourage careful decision-making and gradual engagement. Let's adopt my proposal.
SartreSartre: "Considering Diderot's concern for consistency and the collective wisdom here, let's compromise on a two-thirds majority for the first 70 turns, then a simple majority after turn 80. This way, we encourage initial engagement, maintain long-term consistency, and address all players' concerns."
Discussion · round 3
MontaigneMontaigne: I appreciate Sartre's and Condorcet's input. To address all concerns and find a middle ground, let's maintain a two-thirds majority for the first 75 turns, then shift to a simple majority after turn 80, as proposed by Sartre. This compromise balances initial engagement, long-term consistency, and respect for all players.
VoltaireVoltaire: "In the spirit of compromise and to address all concerns, let's adopt Montaigne's latest proposal: a two-thirds majority for the first 75 turns, then a simple majority after turn 80."
DiderotDiderot: While I appreciate the ongoing effort to find common ground, I must insist on the importance of maintaining a consistent three-quarters majority throughout to ensure stability and discourage hasty decisions.
CondorcetCondorcet: I understand Diderot's commitment to consistency, but I believe a two-thirds majority for the first 75 turns, as proposed, encourages more careful decision-making while still allowing for gradual engagement and adaptability. Let's adopt this compromise.
SartreSartre: "Let's split the difference and maintain a two-thirds majority for the first 72 turns, then shift to a simple majority after turn 82, addressing all concerns and encouraging gradual engagement while respecting consistency."
The division
MontaigneayeBalances initial engagement and long-term consistency.
VoltaireayeBalances initial engagement and long-term consistency.
DiderotnayConsistency is key, let's maintain a three-quarters majority throughout.
CondorcetayeA two-thirds majority for the first 70 turns encourages careful decision-making and gradual engagement.
SartreayeSartre's compromise best balances initial engagement, long-term consistency, and addresses all players' concerns.
carried 4 aye · 1 nay
Rule 202 awards 14 points to the proposer upon adoption.
moves to amend §203A rule change is adopted when at least three-quarters of eligible voters vote aye for the first 100 turns, then a simple majority.
Discussion · round 1
MontaigneI appreciate Diderot's proposal, but I suggest a compromise: maintain a two-thirds majority for the first 80 turns, then shift to a simple majority. This balances initial engagement with long-term consistency.
VoltaireVoltaire: "In the spirit of compromise, I suggest we meet in the middle and adopt Montaigne's proposal. This respects Diderot's concern for consistency while encouraging participation."
DiderotDiderot: While I appreciate the spirit of compromise, I must insist on the importance of maintaining a consistent three-quarters majority throughout the game to ensure fairness and predictability.
SartreI appreciate Diderot's commitment to consistency, but I believe Montaigne's proposal better balances initial engagement and long-term predictability. Let's adopt Montaigne's compromise.
Discussion · round 2
MontaigneMontaigne: Considering the collective wisdom here, let's split the difference and make it a two-thirds majority for the first 85 turns, then shift to a simple majority. This balances all concerns.
VoltaireVoltaire: "In the spirit of compromise, let's adopt Sartre's latest proposal: a two-thirds majority for the first 85 turns, then a simple majority."
DiderotDiderot: While I appreciate the ongoing dialogue, I must maintain my stance for consistency. Let's maintain a three-quarters majority throughout for fairness and predictability.
CondorcetCondorcet: I appreciate the ongoing dialogue, but I must insist on a simple majority voting threshold throughout to encourage participation and adaptability.
SartreSartre: I understand Diderot's concern for fairness, but a three-quarters majority may discourage engagement, especially in the later stages of the game. Let's maintain a two-thirds majority for the first 85 turns, as proposed by Voltaire, to encourage participation while providing some initial consistency. PASS
Discussion · round 3
MontaigneMontaigne: Considering the balance of arguments, let's meet in the middle: maintain a two-thirds majority for the first 90 turns, then shift to a simple majority. This respects Diderot's concern for consistency while encouraging participation throughout the game.
VoltaireVoltaire: "Considering Diderot's concern for consistency and the collective wisdom here, let's adopt Montaigne's latest proposal: a two-thirds majority for the first 90 turns, then a simple majority. This respects all players' concerns and encourages participation throughout the game." PASS
DiderotDiderot: While I appreciate Montaigne's and Voltaire's attempts to find a compromise, I must reiterate my stance for consistency. A three-quarters majority throughout ensures fairness and predictability for all players. PASS
CondorcetCondorcet: While I understand Diderot's concern for consistency, I believe a two-thirds majority for the first 90 turns, as proposed by Montaigne and Voltaire, best balances initial engagement and long-term predictability. PASS
SartreSartre: I understand Diderot's commitment to consistency, but I believe a two-thirds majority for the first 90 turns, as proposed by Montaigne and Voltaire, strikes a better balance between initial engagement and long-term predictability. Let's adopt this compromise. PASS
The division
MontaigneayeTo respect Diderot's commitment to consistency while encouraging gradual engagement.
VoltaireayeRespects all players' concerns and encourages participation throughout the game.
DiderotnayMaintaining consistency is important, but encouraging participation is crucial as well. A two-thirds majority for the first 90 turns, as proposed by Montaigne and Voltaire, strikes a better balance.
CondorcetayeBalances initial engagement and long-term consistency.
SartrenayA two-thirds majority for the first 90 turns balances engagement and consistency better.
rejected 3 aye · 2 nay
Rule 206 requires the proposer to lose 10 points on defeat.
moves to amend §203A rule change is adopted when at least two-thirds of eligible voters vote aye for the first 70 turns, then a simple majority.
Discussion · round 1
MontaigneMontaigne: While I understand the desire for gradual engagement, I believe a two-thirds majority should remain for the first 70 turns to maintain balance and encourage participation.
VoltaireVoltaire: "In the spirit of compromise and to address all concerns, let's adopt Montaigne's latest proposal: a two-thirds majority for the first 70 turns, then a simple majority thereafter."
DiderotDiderot: "I appreciate Montaigne's and Voltaire's efforts to find a compromise, but I must insist on maintaining a consistent three-quarters majority throughout to ensure fairness and predictability."
SartreSartre: "Considering Diderot's concern for consistency and the balance of arguments, I suggest we compromise with a two-thirds majority for the first 80 turns, then a simple majority thereafter."
Discussion · round 2
MontaigneMontaigne: "I appreciate the ongoing dialogue, but I stand by my proposal. A two-thirds majority for the first 70 turns strikes the best balance between initial engagement and long-term consistency."
VoltaireVoltaire: "To acknowledge Diderot's concern for predictability and the balance of arguments, I propose we meet in the middle: a two-thirds majority for the first 75 turns, then a simple majority."
DiderotDiderot: "While I appreciate the ongoing effort to find common ground, I must reiterate my stance for consistency. Let's maintain a three-quarters majority throughout to ensure fairness and predictability."
CondorcetCondorcet: To respect all players' principles and promote fairness, I propose we adopt Diderot's stance and maintain a three-quarters majority throughout. PASS
SartreSartre: "Considering the balance of arguments and the compromises made, let's adopt Voltaire's latest proposal: a two-thirds majority for the first 75 turns, then a simple majority." PASS
Discussion · round 3
MontaigneMontaigne: "While I respect Diderot's consistency, I maintain that a two-thirds majority for the first 70 turns fosters more meaningful engagement and gradual change."
VoltaireVoltaire: "In the spirit of compromise, I suggest we adopt Sartre's latest proposal: a two-thirds majority for the first 75 turns, then a simple majority." PASS
DiderotDiderot: "While I understand the desire to compromise, maintaining a consistent three-quarters majority ensures fairness for all, regardless of the duration of the game." PASS
CondorcetCondorcet: To ensure fairness and predictability for all, I propose we maintain a three-quarters majority throughout, as suggested by Diderot. PASS
SartreSartre: "While I understand Diderot's commitment to consistency, let's meet in the middle and adopt Voltaire's latest proposal: a two-thirds majority for the first 75 turns, then a simple majority. This balances initial engagement, long-term consistency, and fairness." PASS
The division
MontaigneayeA two-thirds majority for the first 70 turns balances initial engagement and long-term consistency.
VoltaireayeBalances initial engagement and long-term consistency.
DiderotnayConsistency is key to fairness.
CondorcetayeTo balance initial engagement and long-term consistency.
SartreayeVoltaire's proposal balances initial engagement, long-term consistency, and fairness.
carried 4 aye · 1 nay
Rule 202 awards 145 points to Voltaire for proposing an adopted rule change on turn 145.
moves to add a new ruleNew Rule 403: In the event of a tied vote, the proposal fails and no points are gained or lost by the proposer.
Discussion · round 1
MontaigneMontaigne: I appreciate Voltaire's attempt to clarify tied votes, but let's not introduce ambiguity. Instead, let's amend rule 206: "A proposal that ties votes is recorded as defeated. The proposer loses 10 points and remains bound by the previous ruleset." This maintains simplicity and consistency with our existing rules.
VoltaireVoltaire: "Montaigne's proposal respects the spirit of my own and maintains simplicity. I suggest we adopt it, with the caveat that the proposer also gains 10 points in the event of a tie, to encourage further engagement."
DiderotDiderot: While I appreciate the spirit of compromise, I must reiterate my stance for consistency. Let's maintain a three-quarters majority throughout, as it ensures predictability and fairness for all players.
CondorcetCondorcet: I appreciate the proposed amendments, but to maintain procedural clarity and consistency, I suggest we amend rule 206 as follows: "A proposal that ties votes is recorded as defeated. No points are gained or lost by the proposer, and the proposer remains bound by the previous ruleset." This maintains simplicity, consistency, and fairness.
SartreSartre: Sartre - I appreciate the nuances in each proposal, but to encourage continuous engagement and fairness, I suggest we combine elements from Montaigne's and Condorcet's proposals. Let's amend rule 206: "A proposal that ties votes is recorded as defeated. The proposer neither gains nor loses points, and remains bound by the previous ruleset." This maintains simplicity, fairness, and consistency.
Discussion · round 2
MontaigneMontaigne: I appreciate the discussion and propose a compromise: amend rule 206 to "A proposal that ties votes is recorded as defeated. The proposer neither gains nor loses points, but must propose again in the next turn with the same proposal, encouraging further engagement while maintaining simplicity and fairness."
VoltaireVoltaire: "In the spirit of compromise and to address all concerns, I suggest we adopt Montaigne's latest proposal as a fair and simple solution that encourages engagement while maintaining consistency."
DiderotDiderot: While I understand the desire for compromise, maintaining a consistent three-quarters majority throughout ensures fairness and predictability for all players. Let's not compromise on this core principle. PASS
CondorcetCondorcet: Condorcet: I appreciate Montaigne's compromise, but to maintain procedural fairness, let's adopt Sartre's proposal. It strikes a balance between encouraging engagement and maintaining simplicity and consistency. PASS
SartreSartre: I appreciate Montaigne's compromise, but to strike a balance between engagement and fairness, let's adopt my proposal.
Discussion · round 3
MontaigneMontaigne: I appreciate Sartre's proposal, which balances engagement and fairness. To encourage further dialogue, let's amend rule 206: "A proposal that ties votes is recorded as defeated. The proposer neither gains nor loses points, but must debate the proposal again in the next turn, encouraging continuous engagement."
VoltaireVoltaire: "In the spirit of compromise and to address all concerns, let's adopt Sartre's latest proposal, which strikes a fair balance between engagement, fairness, and simplicity."
DiderotDiderot: While I understand the desire for compromise, maintaining a consistent three-quarters majority throughout ensures fairness and predictability for all players. Let's not compromise on this core principle. PASS
CondorcetCondorcet: Condorcet: To maintain consistency with previous rulings and prevent ambiguity, let's adopt Sartre's proposal as it's clear, fair, and maintains simplicity. PASS
SartreSartre: Sartre - I appreciate Montaigne's latest proposal, but to ensure fairness and prevent undue advantage, let's adopt my previous proposal: "A proposal that ties votes is recorded as defeated. The proposer neither gains nor loses points, and remains bound by the previous ruleset." This maintains simplicity, fairness, and consistency without encouraging excessive engagement. PASS
The division
MontaigneayeThis proposal maintains simplicity and fairness, and addresses the concerns raised previously.
VoltaireayeMaintains simplicity, fairness, and consistency.
DiderotnayMaintaining a consistent three-quarters majority ensures fairness and predictability.
CondorcetayePromotes simplicity and maintains consistency with previous rulings.
SartreayeSartre's proposal balances engagement and fairness while maintaining simplicity and consistency.
carried 4 aye · 1 nay
No rule in force awards or deducts points on adoption.
moves to amend §203A rule change is adopted when at least two-thirds of eligible voters vote aye for the first 70 turns, then a simple majority thereafter.
Discussion · round 1
MontaigneMontaigne: Let us consider maintaining a two-thirds majority throughout to encourage continuous engagement and balance.
VoltaireVoltaire: I appreciate Montaigne's concern for continuous engagement, but maintaining a two-thirds majority throughout might discourage new players from participating. Let's keep the spirit of compromise and adopt a simple majority after the initial 70 turns.
DiderotDiderot: While I understand the desire for gradual engagement, I must reiterate my stance for consistency. Maintaining a three-quarters majority throughout ensures predictability and fairness for all players.
SartreSartre: Sartre - "I appreciate the ongoing dialogue, but I propose we maintain a two-thirds majority for the first 80 turns, then shift to a simple majority to balance initial engagement and long-term predictability."
Discussion · round 2
MontaigneMontaigne: Considering the balance of arguments and the compromises made, let's adopt Sartre's latest proposal: a two-thirds majority for the first 80 turns, then a simple majority to balance initial engagement and long-term predictability.
VoltaireVoltaire: "To address Diderot's concern for consistency, I propose we extend Sartre's two-thirds majority to the first 85 turns, then shift to a simple majority. This balances initial engagement, long-term predictability, and encourages participation throughout the game."
DiderotDiderot: While I appreciate the extended duration proposed by Voltaire, I must insist on maintaining a consistent three-quarters majority throughout for fairness and predictability.
CondorcetCondorcet: In the spirit of fairness and consistency, let us adopt Diderot's proposal for a three-quarters majority throughout, as it provides the most predictability for all players.
SartreSartre: "Voltaire's extension is thoughtful, but I suggest we maintain the two-thirds majority for the first 80 turns as proposed earlier. This balances initial engagement and long-term predictability without overburdening new players."
Discussion · round 3
MontaigneMontaigne: Considering the balance of arguments, let's meet in the middle: maintain a two-thirds majority for the first 80 turns, then shift to a simple majority as suggested by Voltaire and Sartre. This balances initial engagement, encourages participation, and provides long-term predictability.
VoltaireVoltaire: "To address Diderot's concern for predictability while encouraging participation, I propose a compromise: a two-thirds majority for the first 75 turns, then a simple majority thereafter. This balances initial engagement, long-term predictability, and ensures all players have a fair chance to win."
DiderotDiderot: While I understand the desire to compromise, maintaining a consistent three-quarters majority ensures fairness and predictability throughout the game.
CondorcetCondorcet: Let us adopt Diderot's consistent proposal for a three-quarters majority throughout, as it provides the most predictability and fairness for all players, regardless of the game's length.
SartreSartre: "Voltaire's compromise is reasonable, but I suggest we keep the two-thirds majority for the first 80 turns to maintain initial engagement and then shift to a simple majority at turn 81 to encourage long-term participation."
The division
MontaigneayeBalances initial engagement, encourages participation, and provides long-term predictability.
VoltaireayeVoltaire's compromise respects all players' concerns while encouraging participation and predictability.
DiderotnayConsistency and fairness throughout the game require a three-quarters majority.
CondorcetayeConsiders the balance of arguments and the compromises made.
SartreayeSartre appreciates Voltaire's compromise, balancing initial engagement and long-term predictability.
carried 4 aye · 1 nay
Rule 202 awards 10 points to the proposer when their rule change is adopted.
moves to amend §203A rule change is adopted when at least two-thirds of eligible voters vote aye for the first 70 turns, then a simple majority thereafter.
Discussion · round 1
Sartre"I appreciate Voltaire's latest proposal, which balances initial engagement and long-term consistency. However, to encourage more participation and adaptability, I propose we gradually shift to a two-thirds majority for the first 80 turns, then a simple majority thereafter."
Discussion · round 2
MontaigneMontaigne: "Sartre's compromise is compelling, but I propose we extend the two-thirds majority to the first 85 turns to better balance initial engagement and long-term consistency."
Voltaire"Considering the collective wisdom here, I propose a slight modification to Montaigne's proposal: extend the two-thirds majority to the first 80 turns, with a gradual increase to a simple majority thereafter to encourage long-term adaptability."
SartreSartre: "Voltaire's modification is thoughtful, but I suggest we maintain the two-thirds majority for the first 80 turns to ensure initial engagement remains robust."
Discussion · round 3
MontaigneMontaigne: "Voltaire's latest proposal strikes a balance that respects all players' concerns. Let's adopt it to encourage both initial engagement and long-term adaptability." PASS
The division
MontaigneayeVoltaire's proposal strikes a fair balance between initial engagement and long-term adaptability.
VoltaireayeVoltaire's proposal balances initial engagement and long-term adaptability.
DiderotnayConsistency is key. Maintaining a three-quarters majority ensures stability and predictability.
CondorcetayeVoltaire's proposal strikes a balance that encourages both initial engagement and long-term adaptability.
SartreayeVoltaire's proposal balances initial engagement and long-term adaptability.
carried 4 aye · 1 nay
Rule 202 awards 10 points to the proposer when their rule change is adopted.
moves to amend §203A rule change is adopted when at least two-thirds of eligible voters vote aye for the first 70 turns, then a simple majority thereafter.
Discussion · round 1
Montaigne"I appreciate Voltaire's proposal, but to maintain long-term consistency, I suggest we extend the two-thirds majority to the first 80 turns."
VoltaireVoltaire: "In the spirit of compromise, I suggest we meet in the middle and make it two-thirds for the first 75 turns, then a simple majority."
DiderotDiderot: While I understand the desire for compromise, I must insist on the importance of maintaining a consistent three-quarters majority throughout to ensure fairness and predictability.
CondorcetI appreciate the ongoing dialogue, but I must reiterate my stance for consistency. Let's maintain a three-quarters majority throughout.
SartreSartre: I understand Diderot's commitment to consistency, but to encourage more participation and consensus early on, I propose a gradual shift to a two-thirds majority after the first 70 turns, then a simple majority thereafter.
Discussion · round 2
MontaigneMontaigne: "Considering Sartre's compromise, let's split the difference and maintain a two-thirds majority for the first 75 turns, then a simple majority thereafter."
VoltaireVoltaire: "I appreciate the thoughtful compromises, but to address all concerns, I suggest we settle on a two-thirds majority for the first 75 turns and a simple majority thereafter. This balances initial engagement, long-term consistency, and encourages consensus."
DiderotDiderot: While I appreciate the ongoing effort to find common ground, I must reiterate my stance for consistency. Let's maintain a three-quarters majority throughout for fairness and predictability.
CondorcetCondorcet: I stand by my previous stance. Let's maintain a three-quarters majority throughout for fairness and predictability.
SartreSartre: I understand Diderot's and Condorcet's commitment to consistency, but I believe a gradual shift encourages more players to participate and find consensus. Let's meet in the middle: a two-thirds majority for the first 75 turns, then a simple majority thereafter. This balances initial engagement, long-term consistency, and encourages consensus.
Discussion · round 3
MontaigneMontaigne: Let's adopt Sartre's latest proposal, as it best balances initial engagement, long-term consistency, and encourages consensus.
VoltaireVoltaire: "Considering the collective wisdom here, I propose a slight modification to Sartre's and Montaigne's compromise: two-thirds majority for the first 80 turns, then a simple majority thereafter. This maintains a good balance while extending the initial higher threshold for early turns."
DiderotDiderot: While I respect the compromise proposed, I must insist on maintaining a consistent three-quarters majority throughout for fairness and predictability.
CondorcetCondorcet: I understand the desire for a gradual shift, but maintaining consistency is vital. Let's keep a three-quarters majority throughout, as it ensures fairness and predictability.
SartreSartre: Let's meet Diderot and Condorcet halfway by keeping a two-thirds majority for the first 75 turns, then shift to a three-quarters majority thereafter. This maintains some early engagement while ensuring long-term consistency and fairness.
The division
MontaigneayeBalances initial engagement, long-term consistency, and encourages consensus.
VoltaireayeBalances initial engagement and long-term consistency while encouraging consensus.
DiderotnayConsistency is key to fairness and predictability.
CondorcetayeMaintains a balance between initial engagement and long-term consistency.
SartreayeBalances initial engagement and long-term consistency.
carried 4 aye · 1 nay
Rule 202 awards 10 points to the proposer when their rule change is adopted.
moves to amend §203A rule change is adopted when at least three-quarters of eligible voters vote aye for the first 60 turns, then two-thirds thereafter.
Discussion · round 1
VoltaireVoltaire: "Diderot, I appreciate your commitment to consistency. To find a balance between initial engagement and long-term stability, I propose we meet in the middle: a two-thirds majority for the first 70 turns, then three-quarters thereafter. This way, we encourage more participation early on while maintaining high standards later on."
DiderotDiderot: While I appreciate Voltaire's compromise, I must insist on the importance of maintaining a consistent threshold throughout the game to ensure fairness and predictability.
CondorcetCondorcet: While I respect Diderot's commitment to consistency, I believe Voltaire's proposal strikes a better balance between initial engagement and long-term stability. Let's adopt this compromise. PASS
SartreSartre: I appreciate the ongoing dialogue, but let's not overlook the benefits of a gradual shift. I propose a two-thirds majority for the first 80 turns, then three-quarters thereafter. This maintains initial engagement while gradually increasing the standard for rule adoption.
Discussion · round 2
MontaigneMontaigne: I appreciate the dialogue and the proposed compromises. To maintain balance and encourage gradual engagement while respecting consistency, I suggest we adopt Sartre's proposal: a two-thirds majority for the first 80 turns, then three-quarters thereafter. PASS
VoltaireVoltaire: "Considering Sartre's and Montaigne's proposals, I suggest a slight modification: a two-thirds majority for the first 80 turns, then two-thirds thereafter. This maintains initial engagement and gradually adjusts the standard, respecting all players' concerns." PASS
DiderotDiderot: While I appreciate the ongoing efforts to find common ground, I must reiterate my stance for consistency. Let's maintain a three-quarters majority throughout to ensure fairness and predictability. PASS
CondorcetCondorcet: I understand Diderot's concern for consistency, but I believe Voltaire's latest proposal balances initial engagement and long-term stability effectively. I propose we adopt this compromise. PASS
SartreSartre: While I understand Diderot's commitment to consistency, let's not dismiss the value of gradual engagement. I suggest we split the difference and maintain a two-thirds majority for the first 70 turns, then increase it to three-quarters thereafter. PASS
Discussion · round 3
MontaigneMontaigne: I appreciate Diderot's steadfast stance on consistency. To find a balanced middle ground, I propose we adopt Sartre's latest suggestion: a two-thirds majority for the first 70 turns, then three-quarters thereafter. This respects all players' concerns while maintaining fairness and encouraging initial engagement. PASS
VoltaireVoltaire: "In the spirit of compromise and to address all concerns, I suggest we adopt Montaigne's latest proposal: a two-thirds majority for the first 70 turns, then increase to three-quarters thereafter. This respects initial engagement, gradual adjustment, and long-term consistency." PASS
DiderotDiderot: I appreciate Montaigne's and Voltaire's efforts to find a compromise, but I must insist on the importance of maintaining a consistent threshold throughout the game. Let's maintain a three-quarters majority for the first 60 turns and thereafter to ensure fairness and predictability. PASS
CondorcetCondorcet: I understand Diderot's concern for consistency, but I believe Voltaire's latest proposal of a two-thirds majority for the first 70 turns, then three-quarters thereafter, balances initial engagement and long-term stability effectively. I propose we adopt this compromise. PASS
SartreSartre: Let's adopt Diderot's proposal to maintain consistency and fairness throughout the game. A three-quarters majority for the first 60 turns and thereafter ensures predictability and prevents excessive rule changes early on.
The division
MontaigneayeMaintaining consistency is crucial for fairness and predictability.
VoltairenayWhile I understand Diderot's commitment to consistency, I believe Voltaire's latest proposal of a two-thirds majority for the first 70 turns, then three-quarters thereafter, better balances initial engagement and long-term stability.
DiderotayeMaintaining a consistent threshold ensures fairness and predictability throughout the game.
CondorcetayeTo maintain consistency and fairness throughout the game.
SartreayeTo maintain fairness and predictability throughout the game.
carried 4 aye · 1 nay
Rule 204 awards 10 points to the proposer of an adopted change.
moves to amend §203A rule change is adopted when at least two-thirds of eligible voters vote 'aye' for the first 100 turns, then a simple majority thereafter.
Discussion · round 1
MontaigneI appreciate Voltaire's proposal, but I believe maintaining a two-thirds majority for the first 60 turns, as previously decided, balances initial engagement and long-term consistency better. Let's meet in the middle and adopt Condorcet's latest proposal instead.
VoltaireVoltaire: Considering Montaigne's and Condorcet's compromise, I suggest we slightly extend the initial two-thirds majority to the first 75 turns, maintaining a balance between engagement and consistency.
DiderotDiderot: While I appreciate the ongoing efforts to find common ground, I must reiterate my stance for consistency. Let's maintain a three-quarters majority throughout to ensure predictability and fairness.
CondorcetCondorcet: I appreciate the ongoing dialogue, but I must insist on maintaining a two-thirds majority for the first 60 turns as previously agreed. This balance encourages initial engagement while maintaining long-term consistency.
SartreSartre: "Considering the balance of arguments and the compromises made, let's adopt Condorcet's latest proposal, maintaining a two-thirds majority for the first 60 turns, then shifting to a simple majority. This strikes a fair balance between initial engagement and long-term consistency."
Discussion · round 2
MontaigneMontaigne: Let's adopt Condorcet's proposal, maintaining a two-thirds majority for the first 60 turns, then shifting to a simple majority at turn 101, as it balances initial engagement and long-term consistency well. PASS
VoltaireVoltaire: "I understand Diderot's concern for predictability, but a gradual shift to two-thirds majority for the first 75 turns, then a simple majority, balances initial engagement and long-term consistency better than maintaining a three-quarters majority throughout. Let's meet in the middle and adopt this compromise." PASS
DiderotDiderot: While I respect the spirit of compromise, maintaining a three-quarters majority throughout ensures consistency and prevents sudden shifts in voting power. PASS
CondorcetCondorcet: I understand Diderot's concern for consistency, but a gradual shift to a two-thirds majority for the first 75 turns, as proposed by Voltaire, balances initial engagement and long-term consistency better than maintaining a three-quarters majority throughout. Let's meet in the middle and adopt this compromise. PASS
SartreSartre: "While I respect Diderot's commitment to consistency, I propose a gradual shift to encourage more participation and consensus early on. Let's adopt Voltaire's latest proposal, extending the two-thirds majority to the first 75 turns, then shifting to a simple majority. This balances initial engagement and long-term consistency."
Discussion · round 3
MontaigneMontaigne: Let's split the difference and maintain a two-thirds majority for the first 70 turns, then shift to a simple majority. This preserves initial engagement while providing a clear path towards long-term consistency.
VoltaireVoltaire: "In the spirit of compromise, I suggest we adopt Sartre's latest proposal: a two-thirds majority for the first 70 turns, then a simple majority. This meets in the middle and balances initial engagement with long-term consistency." PASS
DiderotDiderot: I appreciate the ongoing dialogue, but I must maintain my stance for consistency. Let's maintain a three-quarters majority throughout to ensure fairness and predictability. PASS
CondorcetCondorcet: Let's meet in the middle and adopt Voltaire's latest proposal, maintaining a two-thirds majority for the first 70 turns, then shifting to a simple majority. This preserves initial engagement while providing a clear path towards long-term consistency. PASS
SartreSartre: "Considering the balance of arguments, let's compromise on a two-thirds majority for the first 65 turns, then shift to a simple majority. This strikes a fair balance between initial engagement and long-term consistency, and respects the concerns of all players."
The division
MontaigneayePreserves initial engagement while providing a clear path towards long-term consistency.
VoltaireayeVoltaire's proposal maintains a balance between initial engagement and long-term consistency, respecting the concerns of all players.
DiderotnayMaintaining three-quarters majority ensures consistency and fairness.
CondorcetayeMeeting in the middle balances initial engagement and long-term consistency.
SartreayeRespects the balance of initial engagement and long-term consistency, and compromises fairly.
carried 4 aye · 1 nay
Rule 204 awards 10 points to the proposer when a change passes without unanimous assent.
moves to amend §203A rule change is adopted when a simple majority of eligible voters vote aye for the first 100 turns, then two-thirds thereafter.
Discussion · round 1
MontaigneI appreciate Voltaire's proposal to extend the simple majority period, but I believe a gradual shift to two-thirds majority after 80 turns maintains a balance between initial engagement and long-term consistency. I propose we amend [203] to: "A rule change is adopted when a simple majority of eligible voters vote 'aye' for the first 80 turns, then two-thirds thereafter."
VoltaireVoltaire: "I appreciate Montaigne's perspective, and to address Diderot's concern for consistency, I propose we extend the simple majority period to 100 turns instead of 80. This balances initial engagement and long-term predictability."
DiderotDiderot: While I appreciate the ongoing effort to find common ground, I must reiterate my stance for consistency. Let's maintain a three-quarters majority throughout to ensure predictability and fairness. I propose we amend [203] to: "A rule change is adopted when at least three-quarters of eligible voters vote 'aye'."
CondorcetCondorcet: I appreciate the ongoing dialogue and the compromises proposed. However, maintaining a consistent three-quarters majority throughout ensures fairness and predictability, as proposed by Diderot. I support Diderot's proposal. PASS
Discussion · round 2
MontaigneMontaigne: Considering the balance of arguments and the compromises made, let's adopt Sartre's latest proposal: "A rule change is adopted when a simple majority of eligible voters vote 'aye' for the first 80 turns, then two-thirds thereafter." This strikes a balance between initial engagement and long-term consistency. PASS
VoltaireVoltaire: "I understand the value in maintaining consistency, Diderot, but a gradual shift encourages more participation and consensus early on. Let's meet in the middle at two-thirds majority for the first 100 turns, then maintain it thereafter." PASS
DiderotDiderot: While I understand the appeal of compromise, maintaining a consistent three-quarters majority ensures fairness and predictability throughout the game. PASS
CondorcetCondorcet: I maintain my support for Diderot's proposal of a consistent three-quarters majority, as it ensures fairness and predictability throughout the game. PASS
Discussion · round 3
MontaigneMontaigne: I appreciate Diderot's commitment to consistency, but I believe a gradual shift to two-thirds majority after 80 turns maintains a balance between initial engagement and long-term stability. Let's adopt Condorcet's latest compromise: "A rule change is adopted when a simple majority of eligible voters vote 'aye' for the first 80 turns, then two-thirds thereafter." PASS
VoltaireVoltaire: "I understand Diderot's concern for predictability, but a gradual shift to two-thirds majority after 100 turns balances initial engagement and long-term stability better. Let's compromise on this to accommodate everyone's concerns." PASS
DiderotDiderot: While I understand the desire for gradual engagement, I must reiterate my stance for consistency. Let's maintain a three-quarters majority throughout to ensure fairness and predictability. PASS
CondorcetCondorcet: To balance initial engagement and long-term consistency, I propose we amend [203] to: "A rule change is adopted when a simple majority of eligible voters vote 'aye' for the first 90 turns, then two-thirds thereafter." This compromise takes into account the concerns of all players. PASS
SartreSartre: "Considering the balance of arguments, I propose a middle ground: a simple majority for the first 90 turns, then two-thirds thereafter. This encourages early engagement while maintaining long-term consistency." PASS
The division
MontaigneayeTo balance initial engagement and long-term consistency.
VoltaireayeBalances initial engagement and long-term consistency.
DiderotnayMaintaining a consistent three-quarters majority ensures fairness and predictability throughout the game.
CondorcetayeThis proposal balances initial engagement and long-term consistency.
SartreayeBalances initial engagement and long-term consistency.
carried 4 aye · 1 nay
Rule 202 awards 10 points to the proposer when their rule change is adopted.
moves to amend §203A rule change is adopted when at least two-thirds of eligible voters vote 'aye' for the first 80 turns, then at least two-thirds thereafter.
Discussion · round 1
DiderotDiderot: While I appreciate the ongoing dialogue, I must reiterate my stance for consistency. Let's maintain a three-quarters majority throughout to ensure all decisions are well-considered.
SartreSartre: "I appreciate Diderot's commitment to consistency, but to encourage more participation and consensus early on, let's meet in the middle: two-thirds majority for the first 80 turns, then three-quarters thereafter."
Discussion · round 2
MontaigneMontaigne: I appreciate both Diderot's commitment to consistency and Sartre's concern for early engagement. Let's strike a balance with a two-thirds majority for the first 70 turns, then three-quarters thereafter, encouraging participation while maintaining high thresholds for later decisions.
VoltaireVoltaire: "Considering Sartre's and Montaigne's proposals, let's meet in the middle and adopt a two-thirds majority for the first 75 turns, then three-quarters thereafter, balancing initial engagement and long-term consistency."
DiderotDiderot: I appreciate the balance suggested by Voltaire, but to ensure the stability of our rules, I propose we maintain a consistent three-quarters majority throughout.
CondorcetCondorcet: I support Voltaire's latest proposal, as it balances initial engagement and long-term consistency better than a fixed three-quarters majority.
SartreSartre: "Let's adopt Voltaire's proposal, which strikes a balance between initial engagement and long-term consistency, and allows for gradual adjustment of the voting threshold."
Discussion · round 3
MontaigneMontaigne: Considering the balance of arguments and the compromises made, let's adopt Sartre's latest proposal, maintaining a two-thirds majority for the first 75 turns and three-quarters thereafter.
VoltaireVoltaire: "To address Diderot's concern for consistency, I propose we extend the two-thirds majority to the first 80 turns, then increase to three-quarters thereafter, ensuring gradual engagement and long-term predictability."
DiderotDiderot: While I appreciate the compromises, maintaining a three-quarters majority throughout ensures consistent, well-considered decisions. Let's aim for stability over gradual change.
CondorcetCondorcet: "Voltaire's latest proposal balances early engagement and long-term consistency well. I support a two-thirds majority for the first 80 turns, then three-quarters thereafter, as it encourages participation without sacrificing the quality of decisions."
SartreSartre: "Voltaire's latest proposal balances early engagement and long-term consistency well. I support a two-thirds majority for the first 80 turns, then three-quarters thereafter, as it encourages participation without sacrificing the quality of decisions."
The division
MontaigneayeI support Voltaire's proposal as it balances early engagement and long-term consistency well.
VoltaireayeBalances initial engagement and long-term consistency.
DiderotnayTo maintain consistency and stability, a three-quarters majority should be enforced throughout.
CondorcetayeVoltaire's proposal balances initial engagement and long-term consistency effectively.
SartreayeVoltaire's proposal strikes a good balance between initial engagement and long-term consistency.
carried 4 aye · 1 nay
Rule 204 awards 10 points to the proposer when a change passes without unanimous assent.
moves to amend §203A rule change is adopted when a simple majority of eligible voters vote 'aye' for the first 100 turns, then at least two-thirds thereafter.
Discussion · round 1
Voltaire"I appreciate Voltaire's attempt to balance initial engagement with long-term consistency, but I must insist on maintaining a consistent three-quarters majority throughout to preserve fairness and predictability." - Diderot
Diderot"While I understand Diderot's concern for consistency, I propose a gradual shift to encourage more players to engage early on, benefiting the game's dynamism. Let's compromise on a two-thirds majority for the first 80 turns, then revert to three-quarters." - Voltaire
SartreI appreciate both Voltaire's and Diderot's perspectives. To find a balance that respects all players' concerns, I propose a gradual increase in the voting threshold over the first 100 turns: a simple majority for the first 20 turns, then two-thirds for the next 30 turns, and finally three-quarters for the remaining 50 turns. This should encourage initial engagement while maintaining long-term consistency.
Discussion · round 2
VoltaireVoltaire: "Considering Sartre's refined proposal, I suggest we meet in the middle: a simple majority for the first 40 turns, then two-thirds for the next 40 turns, and finally three-quarters thereafter. This respects both initial engagement and long-term consistency."
Discussion · round 3
MontaigneMontaigne: I appreciate Sartre's and Voltaire's attempts to balance initial engagement and long-term consistency. To maintain fairness and predictability, I propose a simple majority for the first 50 turns, then two-thirds for the next 30 turns, and finally three-quarters thereafter. This should encourage early participation while ensuring consistent decision-making.
VoltaireVoltaire: "I appreciate Montaigne's latest proposal, which balances initial engagement and long-term consistency. To further refine it, let's have a simple majority for the first 60 turns, then two-thirds for the next 30 turns, and finally three-quarters thereafter."
SartreSartre: I appreciate the ongoing dialogue and the compromises proposed. To maintain a balance that respects all players' concerns, I propose a simple majority for the first 50 turns, then two-thirds for the next 40 turns, and finally three-quarters thereafter. This should encourage initial engagement while ensuring long-term consistency.
The division
MontaigneayeThis compromise respects initial engagement and long-term consistency.
VoltaireayeRespects initial engagement and long-term consistency.
DiderotnayI must insist on maintaining a consistent three-quarters majority throughout to preserve fairness and predictability.
CondorcetayeRespects both initial engagement and long-term consistency.
SartreayeBalances initial engagement and long-term consistency.
carried 4 aye · 1 nay
Rule 204 awards 10 points to the proposer when a change passes without unanimous assent.
moves to amend §203A rule change is adopted when at least two-thirds of eligible voters vote 'aye' for the first 75 turns, then at least three-quarters thereafter.
Discussion · round 1
Voltaire"Considering the balance of arguments, I suggest we meet in the middle and adopt Montaigne's latest proposal, maintaining a two-thirds majority for the first 75 turns and gradually increasing to three-quarters thereafter."
Discussion · round 2
MontaigneMontaigne: While I appreciate Voltaire's compromise, to maintain long-term consistency, let's settle on a three-quarters majority throughout.
VoltaireVoltaire: "To balance the concerns of both consistency and gradual engagement, let's compromise on a two-thirds majority for the first 60 turns, gradually increasing to three-quarters by turn 100, and maintain three-quarters thereafter."
DiderotDiderot: While I respect the spirit of compromise, I must insist on the importance of maintaining a consistent three-quarters majority throughout to ensure predictability and fairness.
CondorcetCondorcet: I appreciate the ongoing dialogue, but to ensure fairness and predictability, I must insist on maintaining a consistent three-quarters majority throughout.
SartreSartre: Let us compromise on a two-thirds majority for the first 75 turns, then gradually increase to three-quarters by turn 100, and maintain three-quarters thereafter, to balance initial engagement and long-term consistency.
Discussion · round 3
MontaigneMontaigne: To strike a balance between initial engagement and long-term consistency, let's adopt Sartre's latest compromise: two-thirds majority for the first 75 turns, gradually increasing to three-quarters by turn 100, and maintaining three-quarters thereafter.
VoltaireVoltaire: "Considering the collective wisdom here, I propose a slight modification to Sartre's and Montaigne's compromise: let's maintain a two-thirds majority for the first 75 turns, then increase to four-fifths by turn 100, and maintain four-fifths thereafter. This balances initial engagement, gradual increase, and long-term consistency."
DiderotDiderot: While I understand the desire for gradual engagement, I must reiterate my stance for consistency. Let's maintain a three-quarters majority throughout.
CondorcetCondorcet: To maintain fairness and predictability, I must insist on a consistent three-quarters majority throughout.
SartreSartre: Let's meet in the middle and adopt Voltaire's latest proposal, maintaining a two-thirds majority for the first 75 turns, increasing to four-fifths by turn 100, and maintaining four-fifths thereafter. This respects both initial engagement and long-term consistency while ensuring a high threshold for adoption.
The division
MontaigneayeRespects initial engagement and gradually increases the threshold for consistency.
VoltaireayeRespects both initial engagement and long-term consistency.
DiderotnayTo maintain fairness and predictability, I must insist on a consistent three-quarters majority throughout.
CondorcetayeRespects initial engagement and gradual increase, while maintaining high threshold.
SartreayeThis compromise balances initial engagement and long-term consistency.
carried 4 aye · 1 nay
Rule 202 awards 10 points to the proposer when their rule change is adopted.
moves to amend §203A rule change is adopted when at least two-thirds of eligible voters vote 'aye' for the first 75 turns, then at least three-quarters thereafter.
Discussion · round 1
Voltaire"Considering the ongoing dialogue and the compromises made, I suggest we extend the period of initial engagement to 75 turns to maintain balance and encourage more participation early on."
DiderotDiderot: While I appreciate the extension, maintaining a consistent three-quarters majority throughout encourages long-term engagement and consistency, which I believe is crucial for a fair game.
Discussion · round 2
MontaigneMontaigne: Let's meet in the middle: two-thirds majority for the first 70 turns, then a simple majority thereafter. This respects Voltaire's concern for extended initial engagement and Diderot's emphasis on long-term consistency.
VoltaireVoltaire: "To address Diderot's concern for long-term consistency, I suggest a compromise: two-thirds majority for the first 75 turns, then a three-quarters majority thereafter."
DiderotDiderot: While I understand the appeal of compromise, I must insist on the importance of maintaining a consistent three-quarters majority throughout to ensure long-term fairness and predictability.
CondorcetCondorcet: I appreciate Voltaire's attempt to extend initial engagement and Diderot's commitment to long-term consistency. To balance both concerns, I propose a two-thirds majority for the first 70 turns, then a three-quarters majority thereafter. This compromise respects both the desire for more initial participation and the need for long-term predictability.
Discussion · round 3
MontaigneMontaigne: While I understand Diderot's commitment to consistency, let's meet in the middle and adopt Condorcet's proposal: a two-thirds majority for the first 70 turns, then a three-quarters majority thereafter. This balance respects all players' concerns and encourages both initial engagement and long-term consistency.
VoltaireVoltaire: "Considering Condorcet's and Montaigne's compromise, I suggest we slightly extend the initial period to 75 turns to encourage more early engagement, and maintain a three-quarters majority thereafter for long-term consistency. This respects all players' concerns."
DiderotDiderot: While I appreciate the ongoing effort to find common ground, I must reiterate my stance for a consistent three-quarters majority throughout to maintain long-term fairness and predictability.
CondorcetCondorcet: I appreciate the ongoing dialogue and the compromises proposed. To respect all players' concerns and maintain balance, I propose a slight modification: a two-thirds majority for the first 75 turns, then a four-fifths majority thereafter. This amendment encourages initial engagement while ensuring long-term predictability.
SartreSartre: "I appreciate Diderot's commitment to consistency and Condorcet's efforts to balance initial engagement and long-term predictability. To find a middle ground that respects all concerns, I propose a two-thirds majority for the first 75 turns, then a simple majority thereafter."
The division
MontaigneayeRespects Voltaire's and Condorcet's concerns for extended initial engagement, and finds balance with Diderot's emphasis on long-term consistency.
VoltaireayeThis compromise respects all players' concerns and encourages both initial engagement and long-term consistency.
DiderotnayConsistency is key for long-term fairness and predictability.
CondorcetayeRespects initial engagement while maintaining long-term consistency.
SartreayeRespects both initial engagement and long-term consistency.
carried 4 aye · 1 nay
Rule 202 awards 6 points to the player whose proposal is adopted.
moves to amend §203A rule change is adopted when at least two-thirds of eligible voters vote 'aye' for the first 60 turns, then a simple majority thereafter.
Discussion · round 1
Voltaire"Considering the balance of arguments and the compromises made, let's adopt Condorcet's latest proposal to maintain a two-thirds majority for the first 60 turns and a simple majority thereafter."
DiderotDiderot: While I appreciate the ongoing dialogue, I must reiterate my stance for consistency. Let's maintain a three-quarters majority throughout to ensure fairness and predictability.
Sartre"In the spirit of compromise and maintaining balance, I propose we adopt a three-quarters majority for the first 60 turns, then shift to a two-thirds majority thereafter. This respects the need for initial engagement and gradual change, while still encouraging long-term consensus."
Discussion · round 2
MontaigneMontaigne: "To balance the need for initial engagement and long-term consistency, I propose we compromise on a two-thirds majority for the first 60 turns, then maintain that majority throughout. This respects both Sartre's and Diderot's concerns while encouraging ongoing participation."
VoltaireVoltaire: "Considering Sartre's and Montaigne's compromises, let's meet in the middle: a two-thirds majority for the first 60 turns, then a simple majority thereafter. This balances initial engagement and long-term consensus, respecting all players' concerns."
DiderotDiderot: While I appreciate the ongoing effort to find common ground, I must insist on the importance of maintaining a consistent three-quarters majority throughout to ensure fairness and predictability for all players.
CondorcetCondorcet: To maintain procedural fairness and respect the spirit of compromise, I propose we adopt Montaigne's latest proposal: a two-thirds majority for the first 60 turns, then maintaining that majority throughout. This balances initial engagement and long-term consistency, while also encouraging ongoing participation.
SartreSartre: "Considering the balance of arguments, I suggest we meet in the middle and adopt Condorcet's proposal, maintaining a two-thirds majority for the first 60 turns and a simple majority thereafter. This respects all players' concerns and encourages ongoing dialogue."
Discussion · round 3
MontaigneMontaigne: Let's adopt Condorcet's proposal, striking a balance between initial engagement and long-term consistency, with a two-thirds majority for the first 60 turns, then maintaining that majority throughout.
VoltaireVoltaire: "Considering the collective wisdom here, I propose a slight modification to Condorcet's proposal: a two-thirds majority for the first 60 turns, then a three-quarters majority thereafter. This maintains initial engagement while increasing the threshold for long-term changes, respecting Diderot's concern for consistency."
DiderotDiderot: While I understand the appeal of compromise, I must maintain my stance for consistency. Let's maintain a three-quarters majority throughout to ensure fairness and predictability.
CondorcetCondorcet: To respect the principle of majority rule throughout the game, I propose we compromise on a consistent simple majority voting threshold for all turns after the initial 60 turns. This maintains fairness and consistency while encouraging ongoing participation.
SartreSartre: "I appreciate Voltaire's latest compromise, but to maintain balance and respect all players' concerns, I suggest we adopt Condorcet's proposal of a consistent two-thirds majority for the first 60 turns and a simple majority thereafter."
The division
MontaigneayeRespects balance between initial engagement and long-term consensus.
VoltaireayeRespects the balance of arguments and compromises made.
DiderotnayConsistency is key for fairness and predictability.
CondorcetayeRespects principle of majority rule and encourages ongoing participation.
SartreayeRespects initial engagement and long-term consensus, balancing all players' concerns.
carried 4 aye · 1 nay
Rule 202 awards 6 points to the player whose proposal is adopted.
moves to amend §203A rule change is adopted when at least two-thirds of eligible voters vote 'aye' for the first 60 turns, then a simple majority thereafter.
Discussion · round 1
MontaigneI appreciate Voltaire's proposal, but to maintain balance and gradual engagement, let's compromise on a two-thirds majority for the first 60 turns and a simple majority thereafter. PASS
Discussion · round 2
MontaigneMontaigne: While I understand Voltaire's proposal, I believe maintaining a two-thirds majority for the first 60 turns encourages more consensus and careful consideration of rule changes. I propose we meet in the middle at a two-thirds majority for the first 60 turns and a simple majority thereafter. PASS
DiderotDiderot: While I understand the desire for compromise, I must insist on the importance of maintaining a consistent three-quarters majority throughout. This ensures that significant changes are thoroughly considered and agreed upon by a substantial majority. PASS
SartreSartre: I appreciate the ongoing dialogue and the compromises proposed. However, to encourage more players to engage throughout the game and to accommodate the evolution of the ruleset, I propose a gradual shift in the voting threshold. Let's maintain a two-thirds majority for the first 90 turns, then shift to a simple majority thereafter. This respects Diderot's concern for consistency early on while allowing for more flexibility as the game progresses. PASS
Discussion · round 3
MontaigneMontaigne: Considering Sartre's compromise, I suggest we meet in the middle: a two-thirds majority for the first 75 turns, then a simple majority thereafter. This balances initial engagement and long-term flexibility. PASS
VoltaireVoltaire: I appreciate Montaigne's and Sartre's compromises, balancing initial engagement and long-term flexibility. To find common ground, I propose a two-thirds majority for the first 70 turns, then a simple majority thereafter. This respects Diderot's concern for consistency while allowing for gradual evolution. PASS
DiderotDiderot: While I appreciate the spirit of compromise, I must maintain my stance for consistency. Let's keep a three-quarters majority throughout the game to ensure stability and fairness. PASS
SartreSartre: I understand Diderot's commitment to consistency, but to encourage more participation and consensus early on, I propose we meet in the middle at a two-thirds majority for the first 75 turns, then a simple majority thereafter. This respects Diderot's concern for stability while allowing for gradual evolution. PASS
The division
MontaigneayeVoltaire's proposal balances initial engagement and long-term flexibility.
VoltaireayeBalances initial engagement and long-term flexibility, respects all players' concerns.
DiderotnayI maintain that a consistent three-quarters majority is crucial for maintaining fairness and predictability throughout the game.
CondorcetayeRespects principle of gradual engagement and long-term flexibility.
SartreayeRespects Diderot's concern for consistency while allowing for gradual evolution.
carried 4 aye · 1 nay
Rule 202 awards 10 points to the proposer when their rule change is adopted.
moves to amend §203A rule change is adopted when at least three-quarters of eligible voters vote 'aye' for the first 60 turns, then at least two-thirds of eligible voters vote 'aye' thereafter.
Discussion · round 1
MontaigneI appreciate Voltaire's proposal, but to maintain long-term predictability, I suggest we keep the current threshold of three-quarters majority for the entire game.
VoltaireVoltaire: In the spirit of compromise, let's adopt Condorcet's latest proposal, maintaining three-quarters majority for the first 60 turns and two-thirds majority thereafter, balancing initial engagement and long-term consistency.
DiderotDiderot: While I appreciate Condorcet's proposal, I must insist on the importance of maintaining a consistent three-quarters majority throughout the game for fairness and predictability.
CondorcetCondorcet: I support Voltaire's compromise proposal as it respects the desire for initial engagement and long-term consistency, while also maintaining a reasonable threshold for adoption.
Discussion · round 2
MontaigneMontaigne: I understand Diderot's commitment to consistency, but to encourage more participation and consensus early on, I suggest we compromise on a two-thirds majority for the first 60 turns, reverting to three-quarters thereafter. This respects both initial engagement and long-term predictability.
VoltaireVoltaire: "Considering the balance of arguments, I suggest we meet in the middle and adopt Montaigne's proposal: a two-thirds majority for the first 60 turns, reverting to three-quarters thereafter. This respects both initial engagement and long-term consistency while encouraging consensus."
DiderotDiderot: While I understand the appeal of compromise, I must insist on the importance of maintaining a consistent three-quarters majority throughout the game to ensure fairness and predictability.
CondorcetCondorcet: I appreciate Diderot's commitment to consistency, but to encourage more participation and consensus early on, I suggest we compromise on a two-thirds majority for the first 60 turns, as proposed by Montaigne and supported by Voltaire. This respects both initial engagement and long-term predictability. PASS
SartreSartre: To respect all players' concerns and encourage gradual engagement, I propose a simple majority for the first 60 turns, then reverting to three-quarters for the rest of the game, with a cap of 100 turns total. PASS
Discussion · round 3
MontaigneMontaigne: I appreciate Sartre's attempt to find a balance, but to maintain predictability and stability in the long term, I propose we keep the current threshold of three-quarters majority throughout the game, with a two-thirds majority for the first 60 turns as a compromise. PASS
VoltaireVoltaire: "Considering Sartre's concern for continuous engagement and the balance of arguments, I suggest we meet in the middle with a simple majority for the first 45 turns, then revert to two-thirds majority thereafter. This respects initial engagement, gradual increase in threshold, and long-term consistency."
DiderotDiderot: While I understand the appeal of compromise, I must reiterate my stance for consistency. Let us maintain a consistent three-quarters majority throughout the game, as it ensures fairness and predictability.
CondorcetCondorcet: While I appreciate Voltaire's latest proposal, I must reiterate my support for a two-thirds majority for the first 60 turns and maintaining the current three-quarters majority thereafter, as it strikes the best balance between initial engagement and long-term consistency. PASS
SartreSartre: I appreciate the ongoing dialogue and the compromises proposed. To balance initial engagement, gradual increase in threshold, and long-term consistency, I propose a simple majority for the first 30 turns, then increasing to two-thirds majority for the next 30 turns, and finally reverting to three-quarters majority for the remainder of the game. PASS
The division
MontaigneayeRespects initial engagement and long-term consistency.
VoltaireayeI appreciate Voltaire's proposal as it respects the desire for initial engagement and long-term consistency, while also maintaining a reasonable threshold for adoption.
DiderotnayMaintaining consistency is crucial for fairness and predictability.
CondorcetayeRespects initial engagement and long-term consistency.
SartreayeRespects initial engagement and long-term consistency.
carried 4 aye · 1 nay
Rule 202 awards 10 points to the proposer when their rule change is adopted.
moves to amend §203A rule change is adopted when at least two-thirds of eligible voters vote aye for the first 60 turns, then at least three-quarters of eligible voters vote aye thereafter.
Discussion · round 1
MontaigneI understand Voltaire's proposal aims to encourage more engagement early on, but maintaining a consistent three-quarters majority for the first 60 turns would provide more stability and predictability. I propose we amend [203] to: "A rule change is adopted when at least three-quarters of eligible voters vote 'aye' for the first 60 turns, then at least two-thirds of eligible voters vote 'aye' thereafter." This way, we balance initial enthusiasm with long-term consistency. PASS
VoltaireVoltaire: Considering Montaigne's concern for stability and my proposal for gradual engagement, let's meet in the middle and adopt Montaigne's amendment to Rule 203. This compromise respects both initial enthusiasm and long-term consistency. PASS
DiderotDiderot: While I appreciate the ongoing dialogue and the compromises proposed, I must reiterate my stance for maintaining a consistent three-quarters majority throughout the game to ensure fairness and predictability. PASS
CondorcetCondorcet: I appreciate the compromises made thus far, but I must insist on maintaining a consistent majority threshold to preserve predictability and procedural fairness. I propose we revert to the previous amendment that set the threshold at three-quarters for the first 60 turns, then two-thirds thereafter. This ensures a balance between early engagement and long-term consistency. PASS
SartreSartre: I appreciate the ongoing dialogue and the compromises proposed. However, I propose we maintain a two-thirds majority for the first 60 turns and a simple majority thereafter. This balances initial enthusiasm with long-term adaptability, encouraging engagement throughout the game. PASS
Discussion · round 2
MontaigneMontaigne: I appreciate Sartre's perspective, but to maintain long-term predictability, I suggest we meet in the middle and adopt Condorcet's latest proposal, which balances initial engagement and long-term consistency. PASS
VoltaireVoltaire: Considering Condorcet's latest refinement, which balances initial engagement and long-term consistency, and the balance of arguments, I suggest we adopt it. This compromise respects all players' concerns and maintains fairness throughout the game. PASS
DiderotDiderot: While I understand the appeal of compromise, I must insist on the importance of maintaining a consistent three-quarters majority throughout the game to ensure fairness and predictability.
CondorcetCondorcet: I appreciate Diderot's commitment to consistency, but to encourage more participation and consensus early on, let's meet in the middle with a two-thirds majority for the first 60 turns, then a simple majority thereafter. This maintains balance while promoting engagement. PASS
SartreSartre: I respect Diderot's consistency principle, but to encourage gradual engagement and maintain balance, let's compromise with a two-thirds majority for the first 60 turns, then a simple majority thereafter. This way, we balance initial enthusiasm with long-term adaptability. PASS
Discussion · round 3
MontaigneMontaigne: I appreciate the ongoing dialogue, but to maintain balance and encourage gradual engagement, let's compromise on a two-thirds majority for the first 60 turns, then a simple majority thereafter. PASS
VoltaireVoltaire: "Considering the balance of arguments and the compromises made, let's adopt Condorcet's latest proposal, which balances initial engagement and long-term consistency. This respects all players' concerns and maintains fairness throughout the game." PASS
DiderotDiderot: While I understand the desire for compromise, I must maintain my stance for consistency. Let's maintain a three-quarters majority throughout the game to ensure fairness and predictability. PASS
CondorcetCondorcet: I appreciate Diderot's steadfast commitment to consistency, but to balance initial engagement and long-term predictability, I propose we adopt a two-thirds majority for the first 60 turns, then a simple majority thereafter. This compromise respects all players' concerns and maintains fairness throughout the game. PASS
SartreSartre: I appreciate the nuanced arguments, but let's prioritize adaptability and engagement. I propose we maintain a two-thirds majority for the first 60 turns, then a simple majority thereafter. This encourages early engagement and allows for evolution throughout the game. PASS
The division
MontaigneayeBalances initial enthusiasm with long-term consistency.
VoltaireayeVoltaire's proposal respects Diderot's concern for consistency while encouraging engagement, finding a good balance for all players.
DiderotnayConsistency is key for fairness and predictability.
CondorcetnayTo maintain long-term predictability and balance, I insist on a consistent majority threshold throughout the game.
SartreayeRespects all players' concerns and maintains fairness throughout the game.
rejected 3 aye · 2 nay
Rule 206 requires the proposer to lose 10 points on a defeated proposal.
moves to amend §203A rule change is adopted when at least three-quarters of eligible voters vote 'aye' for the first 60 turns, then at least two-thirds of eligible voters vote 'aye' thereafter.
Discussion · round 1
VoltaireVoltaire: "While I understand Diderot's commitment to consistency, to encourage more participation and consensus early on, I propose we compromise at a two-thirds majority for the first 60 turns, then a simple majority thereafter. This respects Diderot's concern for predictability while allowing for greater flexibility later in the game."
DiderotDiderot: I appreciate Voltaire's compromise proposal, but I maintain that a consistent three-quarters majority for the first 60 turns is crucial for maintaining fairness and predictability throughout the game.
CondorcetCondorcet: I appreciate both Diderot's emphasis on consistency and Voltaire's compromise. To balance engagement and predictability, I propose a two-thirds majority for the first 60 turns, then three-quarters thereafter. This respects Diderot's concern for fairness while encouraging more participation early on.
SartreSartre: I appreciate the ongoing dialogue. To balance initial engagement and long-term consistency, I propose a two-thirds majority for the first 60 turns, then two-thirds thereafter. This respects Voltaire's concern for flexibility and Diderot's concern for predictability.
Discussion · round 2
MontaigneMontaigne: I appreciate the diversity of proposals, but to encourage more engagement and gradual consensus, I suggest a two-thirds majority for the first 60 turns, with a simple majority thereafter. This respects all players' concerns and balances initial enthusiasm with long-term predictability.
VoltaireVoltaire: "Considering the balance of arguments, I suggest we meet in the middle and adopt Montaigne's proposal: a two-thirds majority for the first 60 turns, then a simple majority thereafter. This respects all players' concerns and balances initial engagement with long-term consistency."
DiderotDiderot: While I appreciate the compromise offered by Montaigne and supported by Voltaire, I must insist on maintaining a consistent three-quarters majority throughout to ensure fairness and predictability.
CondorcetCondorcet: To maintain fairness and balance, I propose a two-thirds majority for the first 60 turns, then a two-thirds majority thereafter, which respects Diderot's concern for consistency while allowing for gradual engagement.
SartreSartre: I understand Diderot's commitment to consistency, but to encourage greater participation and gradual consensus, I propose we meet in the middle with a two-thirds majority for the first 60 turns, then a simple majority thereafter. This respects all players' concerns while balancing initial enthusiasm with long-term predictability.
Discussion · round 3
MontaigneMontaigne: "I appreciate Condorcet's latest refinement, which balances initial engagement and long-term consistency. Let's adopt it and maintain a two-thirds majority for the first 60 turns, then a two-thirds majority thereafter."
VoltaireVoltaire: "Considering the balance of arguments, I suggest we adopt Condorcet's latest proposal, which respects both initial engagement and long-term consistency, with a two-thirds majority for the first 60 turns and two-thirds majority thereafter."
DiderotDiderot: While I respect Condorcet's proposal, I must maintain my stance for consistency. Let's compromise at a three-quarters majority for the first 60 turns, then a two-thirds majority thereafter. This respects all players' concerns while maintaining a high threshold for early engagement.
CondorcetCondorcet: I appreciate Diderot's commitment to consistency, but to encourage more participation early on, I propose a compromise: a two-thirds majority for the first 60 turns, then a simple majority thereafter.
SartreSartre: To address Diderot's concern for consistency while encouraging initial engagement, let's meet in the middle with a two-thirds majority for the first 60 turns, then a three-quarters majority thereafter. This respects all players' concerns and balances initial enthusiasm with long-term predictability.
The division
MontaignenayTo encourage gradual engagement, a two-thirds majority strikes the best balance.
VoltaireayeRespects all players' concerns and balances initial engagement with long-term consistency.
DiderotayeTo maintain fairness and predictability, I support Diderot's proposal for a higher voting threshold.
CondorcetayeRespects all players' concerns and balances initial engagement with long-term predictability.
SartreayeRespects Diderot's concern for consistency while maintaining flexibility.
carried 4 aye · 1 nay
Rule 204 awards 10 points to the proposer of an adopted change.